YPN terminated me, I am *ucked

[jeremy860]

Looks like my turn has come. what a nice thing to wake up too in the morning, to find out that you have been terminated. You guys dont know how screwed I am right now..

Thank you for your participation in the Yahoo! Publisher Network Beta program. As part of our efforts to ensure high-quality traffic for advertisers on the Yahoo! Publisher Network, we continuously monitor publisher attributes such as:

1. Suspicious click activity.

2. Advertiser conversion rates.

3. Overall quality of leads generated on your site.

Unfortunately, due to poor traffic quality, we have terminated your Yahoo! Publisher Network account ID xxxxxxxxxxxx0. In accordance with Sections 6(a) and 6(b) of the Yahoo! Publisher Network terms and conditions, we will not include clicks from non-U.S. users or otherwise invalid clicks in your payment. We have refunded amounts generated from the non-U.S. users and otherwise invalid clicks to our advertisers and will pay any remaining amount owed to you in accord with the Terms and Conditions.

If your earnings balance is in excess of $100.00, you will receive your final payment within 90 days via the payment method you selected. Please note that we will not make payments for any earned balance less than $100.00. The final payment will be adjusted to exclude any amounts generated in violation of the Yahoo! Publisher Network Terms and Conditions and Program Policies. For example, if we determine that all traffic is non-compliant, you will not receive a payment.

Sincerely,

Mary Fajardo
Content Analyst
Yahoo! Publisher Network

[wce]

well that blows, but at least you were fortunate enough to have it while it lasted unlike others of us :/

[jeremy860]

anyone have YPNs phone number? I need to make a call.

[supportomatic]

I totally feel your pain, man. Believe me. I was doing $400/day back in February when I got canned. Still waiting for my last $xx,xxx check from them... It's kind of like adding insult to injury having to wait 90 days for the final payment.

I guess that doesn't really cheer you up though. :) Sorry man...

[supportomatic]

Trust me, calling them is just an exercise in frustration. You can plead your guts out and it won't make a difference. :(

[George]

So what are you gonna do now?

[jeremy860]

hehe now I got to figure out how I am going to pay all my damn bills next month.

[mcfox]

That blows, dude.

[jeremy860]

I am basically in a state of shock right now as I have been relying on my YPN revenue to pay our monthly bills while we deal with this cancer stuff. my women is going to ring my neck once she finds out.

[DavidR]

I know this is drastic and I don't know if it's going to be viewed as a dumb suggestion, but you could maybe sell your traffic (I understand it's around 10k?) for a day or so and make quite a bit of money from that. I am sure people would purchase that amount of traffic if they were buying 1-2k from you.

That is if you really do need the money badly and instantly.

[jeremy860]

I know this is drastic and I don't know if it's going to be viewed as a dumb suggestion, but you could maybe sell your traffic (I understand it's around 10k?) for a day or so and make quite a bit of money from that. I am sure people would purchase that amount of traffic if they were buying 1-2k from you.

That is if you really do need the money badly and instantly.

yea but the thing is if I do that then I'll prolly get sandboxed in google for redirecting my domain. then the traffic decrease any way... thanks for the suggestion though.

I might have to just sell my site.

[wce]

do you not have any other advertising companies? no adsense? no adbrite? no nothing?

[MGW]

yea....why dont u try using adsense ?

[xo.Saz.xo]

Yeah try using, Clicksor, Adbrite,Google etc? Anyway Im sorry to hear about that, it sucks!

[DavidR]

He has to pay his bills, he won't get any Adsense income for over a month. Same with I believe most other worthwhile contextual ads, plus it will be a huge decrease in what YPN was paying him anyway so maybe it won't cover costs, aswell as maybe they will hold onto any payment owed to him from the past month. Many factors. Unfortunatly, apart from the wild suggestion I made and selling his site there aren't many quick fixes. Possibly borrowing money from Family/Bank?

I think selling your site would be a shame and you may regret it, I am sure this could be a workable situation. Your income is on hold for a moment, it hasn't cut off.

[wce]

Absolutely right, but any $ is better than no $. There are quite a few places out there that are net15 so he could get SOMETHING. Sell nothing but private ads.

As I said before, at least he was fortunate enough to be able to take advantage of YPN while it lasted. If I had YPN at the time these other sites had it I would have been retired by now, but can't sit and dwell on the past. He might have a rough month this month, but at least if some other ads are up there he will make SOMETHING in return.

It's over and done with. Now it's time to get in survival mode and make something happen.

[mikeb]

.....
I think selling your site would be a shame and you may regret it, I am sure this could be a workable situation. Your income is on hold for a moment, it hasn't cut off.

A very good point. Having lost huge income from my main site last year I feel his anger/pain/frustration..all of it. And I didn't have a sick family member.

[pimpmaspace]

"You guys dont know how screwed I am right now.." Thats what happens when you rely on YPN. I've gotten terminated before - it's no biggie. Learn to make money outside of the myspace scne. You won't see any money from YPN until the full 90 days passes. Your earnings will also be cut in half by ypn.

[mikeb]

yea but the thing is if I do that then I'll prolly get sandboxed in google for redirecting my domain. then the traffic decrease any way... thanks for the suggestion though.

I might have to just sell my site.

Why did they ban you? Can I ask what your site is? I am assuming it's a resource site?

[jeremy860]

I'm throwing adsense back up on all my sites as we speak, so I will see how much pathedic pennies that creates for me and I'll work from there. After being with YPN for over a 1 1/2 yrs, this is a nice slap in the face. I can already feel my depression coming back. But as the late 2pac said "Keep your head up". its gonna be hard but what worse could happen to me? I'd rather get evicted from my home than get shot my a firing squad.

[MGW]

lets hope you do well with adsense. All the best. :)

[pimpmaspace]

I'm throwing adsense back up on all my sites as we speak, so I will see how much pathedic pennies that creates for me and I'll work from there. After being with YPN for over a 1 1/2 yrs, this is a nice slap in the face. I can already feel my depression coming back. But as the late 2pac said "Keep your head up". its gonna be hard but what worse could happen to me? I'd rather get evicted from my home than get shot my a firing squad.
You have a long way to go still if loosing YPN is causing you to get depressed. There were sites making millions from YPN late last year - how do you think they feel? Those sites/individuals have 10x the expenses you have. Stop being a *****, put adsense backup, get your sites bigger, and continue finding other ways to make money online. Stop focusing on Myspace like all of these other kiddies are doing. Just a suggestion...

[jeremy860]

You have a long way to go still if loosing YPN is causing you to get depressed. There were sites making millions from YPN late last year - how do you think they feel? Those sites/individuals have 10x the expenses you have. Stop being a *****, put adsense backup, get your sites bigger, and continue finding other ways to make money online. Stop focusing on Myspace like all of these other kiddies are doing. Just a suggestion...

dude you dont know my situation, so dont sit there and call me a *****. I dont give a **** about all those millionaires, even though they lost YPN, they are prolly still enjoying there millions. Yet I will still be here trying to figure out how to pay next months rent, phone, utilities, vehicle payment and ect. If I could go out and get a fulltime job right now I would but thats a whole different situation which has to do with my girlfriends cancer and medical bills and I am not about to get in to that right now.

[NYCBORN]

Use Valueclick in conjunction with Adsense and sell Text Ads on Text Link Ads. I believe TLA payout right away and you don't have to do sitewide links.

[minnseoelite]

I remember when YPN terminated me its almost an unreal feeling like WTF I didn't do anything wrong. Try using Adsense, Value Click, and selling some good link spots on your site for more instant cash.

[hextraordinary]

You should try to get into some of the CPM networks asap. Some would accept you within days, some pay net30 but most net60 and net90....

[jeremy860]

yea thanks guys, I dont ask for sympathy for anything, I just made this thread for a little support as I figure out what to do next and it looks like I'm getting it from most people anyway. Thanks alot. phew! what a day..

[NYCBORN]

Gotta roll with the punches worst case scenario just start making some layout packs and start selling them like no tomorrow.

[minnseoelite]

You have a long way to go still if loosing YPN is causing you to get depressed. There were sites making millions from YPN late last year - how do you think they feel? Those sites/individuals have 10x the expenses you have. Stop being a *****, put adsense backup, get your sites bigger, and continue finding other ways to make money online. Stop focusing on Myspace like all of these other kiddies are doing. Just a suggestion...

you have your opinion pimpmaspace but that comment was completly uncalled for...show some respect for your other forum members

[not2late]

You won't see any money from YPN until the full 90 days passes. Your earnings will also be cut in half by ypn.

Yeah the 90 days waiting time sucks, but when it comes its like a nice present. Both times I have been removed from YPN it was pretty much the same amount. First time it was a few bucks over what I was owed, second time it was 10% less. I think the amount they cut it down depends on the amount of foreign clicks and non-converting ads reported by advertisers. They do seem to be cutting more and more lately from people.

1.5 years is definitely a good run. I only lasted a few months despite trying to do everything possible to please YPN. I still see sites that have been in YPN just as long as you and they still havent been touched. The main trend I see with them is that they are never/hardly updated with dwindling traffic. Maybe for myspace sites you want to stay small and lowkey to be in for the long run.

No rainy day fund though? Ive always thought of YPN like a mine, you have to hit hard and when its dried up just cut your losses and keep going. I have 3x the traffic I was getting with YPN but am still only at 40%-50% of what I used to make with it using Adsense/CPXInteractive.

Gotta take the bad with the good though. Good luck with everything and keep us posted.

And im sure whatever you make with Adsense will still beat wages. :yes:

[pimpmaspace]

dude you dont know my situation, so dont sit there and call me a *****. I dont give a **** about all those millionaires, even though they lost YPN, they are prolly still enjoying there millions. Yet I will still be here trying to figure out how to pay next months rent, phone, utilities, vehicle payment and ect. If I could go out and get a fulltime job right now I would but thats a whole different situation which has to do with my girlfriends cancer and medical bills and I am not about to get in to that right now.


Yea yea, cry us a river. It's your own fault, no one else’s. You were foolish enough to rely on a beta program that was widely known for kicking myspace resource site owners. Like I said, quit being a ***** and get to work. Learn how to program, learn how to manage your own servers, learn everything you need to know to go further. I'm not taking shots at you, im just saying. Don't ask for sympathy. Even though you said you aren't, you are. Your situation is nothing compared to what others go thru everyday. Don't take me wrong, I feel you're pain, but you have to stay strong and go with the punches, it's the only way.

Stay up bro! :)

you have your opinion pimpmaspace but that comment was completly uncalled for...show some respect for your other forum members

Thats the way the game goes. I will be as blunt and as raw as I please - read my reply; It's nothing but the truth.

Yeah the 90 days waiting time sucks, but when it comes its like a nice present. Both times I have been removed from YPN it was pretty much the same amount. First time it was a few bucks over what I was owed, second time it was 10% less. I think the amount they cut it down depends on the amount of foreign clicks and non-converting ads reported by advertisers. They do seem to be cutting more and more lately from people.


1.5 years is definitely a good run. I only lasted a few months despite trying to do everything possible to please YPN. I still see sites that have been in YPN just as long as you and they still havent been touched. The main trend I see with them is that they are never/hardly updated with dwindling traffic. Maybe for myspace sites you want to stay small and lowkey to be in for the long run.

No rainy day fund though? Ive always thought of YPN like a mine, you have to hit hard and when its dried up just cut your losses and keep going. I have 3x the traffic I was getting with YPN but am still only at 40%-50% of what I used to make with it using Adsense/CPXInteractive.

Gotta take the bad with the good though. Good luck with everything and keep us posted.

And im sure whatever you make with Adsense will still beat wages. :yes:

Not sure when you were last terminated and how low or high your earnings were, but the last two times I have been terminated towards the end of 2006 has resulted in a 50% cut. All traffic was geo-targeted...

[Lee]

Life without YPN is hard. I'm making 1/3 the money with adsense. YPN owes me $21,000. Hopefully I'll see most of it in 70 days.
I agree that small sites are less likely to get terminated. I was getting 40k uniques/day when I got terminated.

[DavidR]

pimpmaspace we understand what you're saying, and you have a point relying simply on MySpace isn't the best idea. He isn't asking for handouts though, he is just after some support, which us as a community and him as a good member we are willing to provide. I think you are being needlessly harsh. It really is kicking someone when they are down, even if you might be factually correct. It doesn't help...

[pimpmaspace]

I am giving him support, i'm also stating the harsh facts. I have nothing against him - sorry if it sounded that way. I wish him nothing but the best.

[pimpmaspace]

Life without YPN is hard. I'm making 1/3 the money with adsense. YPN owes me $21,000. Hopefully I'll see most of it in 70 days.
I agree that small sites are less likely to get terminated. I was getting 40k uniques/day when I got terminated.

They owed me a little more then that and they only paid about 43% of it, the rest was supposedly returned to advertisers, which is BS. Watch out for ypn!

[Marx]

That is harsh mate, but look on the bright side least you got the opportunity to earn some nice wedge off YPN, all you can do now is try Valueclick + Adsense seems best, or even paypopup they are quite nasty but pay every 15 days and pay well !

[mySpaceSpammer]

when life throws you lemons.

there is more money to be made through targeted CPA ads anyway.

YPN/adsense/adbrite/auctionads that **** is for n00bs.

get off your lazy *** and start earning dollars at the CPA networks instead of nickels with the big boys.

some good CPA networks payout weekly
many of their offers payout $1.50-$5 per lead with 10-40% conversion rates.

PM me if you want some links to good ones and i'll make sure you get approved.

[wce]

hell, if I can make $1.50-$5/lead with 10-40% conversions, you tell me where to send them.. and what CPA ads to run and I'll do it, I'll signup under your name, you call the shots... everytime I've tried CPA it always blew nuts... never had any conversions :<

[NYCBORN]

They owed me a little more then that and they only paid about 43% of it, the rest was supposedly returned to advertisers, which is BS. Watch out for ypn!

I can understand your harshness being that they did the same thing to you.

[Assailant]

This is why I always preach NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.

What did you expect? Seriously...you think YPN advertisers want their legal, refinancing ads shown on myspace resource sites? What percentage of people want a layout of some rap artist with gold in his mouth also want to refinance their home? If you didn't see this coming then you my friend are a fool. You make $xxx a day off a myspace resource site by providing advertisers with non-targeted poor quality traffic.

You KNEW it was a risk...and you took that risk and you got burned..if it didn't happen today it would have happened tomorrow.

[George]

you think YPN advertisers want their legal, refinancing ads shown on myspace resource sites?If they don't tehy should target their ads better. Not all of the problem lies with the publishers....

Jeremy if you want to sell any ad banner spots on a 2 week to a month basis let me know. I can put some fast cash in your pocket.

- GB

[jeremy860]

If they don't tehy should target their ads better. Not all of the problem lies with the publishers....

Jeremy if you want to sell any ad banner spots on a 2 week to a month basis let me know. I can put some fast cash in your pocket.

- GB


i'll get back to you on that george. thanks man.

just trying to sort everything out at the moment and get those wonderful google ads back on my sites and get an idea of what I'll be making on that.

[Ajay]

Yea yea, cry us a river. It's your own fault, no one else’s. You were foolish enough to rely on a beta program that was widely known for kicking myspace resource site owners. Like I said, quit being a ***** and get to work. Learn how to program, learn how to manage your own servers, learn everything you need to know to go further. I'm not taking shots at you, im just saying. Don't ask for sympathy. Even though you said you aren't, you are. Your situation is nothing compared to what others go thru everyday. Don't take me wrong, I feel you're pain, but you have to stay strong and go with the punches, it's the only way.

Stay up bro! :)



Thats the way the game goes. I will be as blunt and as raw as I please - read my reply; It's nothing but the truth.





Wow you are pretty harsh... you should spend your time cleaning up all the "user submitted" content that people upload from myspacestop and take a break from teaching people how to play the game ;)

sucks to hear the bad news jeremey.

[Sergio]

How much traffic was your site getting? Oh, now I'm scared too! O_O I feel like putting Bidvertiser on my site, and I probably will.

[jeremy860]

How much traffic was your site getting? Oh, now I'm scared too! O_O I feel like putting Bidvertiser on my site, and I probably will.

8-9.5k uniques a day right now.

[Sergio]

Oh I see. I feel your pain, I was banned from adsense 2 weeks into my webmaster career all because my friend wanted to "help", he barely admitted this 2 weeks ago (it happened around July '06).

Before I got accepted into YPN, I was doing alright with Bidvertiser, they allow images next to ads as long as there's a border (for now). It might be an alright alternative for you, but probably the last thing you should try.

Anyways, start some new sites for different niches, and use your current site to drive traffic to it. At least you already have a foundation to kick start new projects. For very quick cash start some new sites, maybe even automated blogs and sell them. They sell even with no traffic.

[fanaticus]

This is why I always preach NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.
...
You KNEW it was a risk...and you took that risk and you got burned..if it didn't happen today it would have happened tomorrow.


Yep. Never rely on the quick easy buck from the internet. Enjoy making it and saving it while it lasts, because 99% of the time it doesn't last for very long.

Several years ago I was doing some things with amazon and was averaging 5-6K a WEEK from it at the end. I had quit my job, got into a lifestyle that costed more than I was making, but had gotten lots of credit cards, a high maintainence girlfriend, and a rather wicked cocaine habit. I spent the money faster than I was making it during the last year of it.

Over all it lasted about 3 years from start to finish. I worked a ****ty factory job while doing it part time. Quit the job when I started making $500 a day from the net, that was about a year into it. During the second year I got comfortable with getting the credit cards and spending on them, bought nice stuff, nice cars, huge tv's and expensive toys, did the strip club scene for about 6 months straight every night, Hired Escorts and spent time with skanky women, partying. Then stole one of my coke dealers girlfriend because I Was making more money than he was and my life was basically one big party every day. Spent pretty much the next year sitting on a black leather couch with a glass plate on a table in front of me and a straw in my hand, a bottle a tequila, and a cokewhore sitting next to me half naked, spending 25k a month just paying bills and buying food and coke to do with all the 'friends' I had accumalated along the way. Going 4-5-6 days straight with no sleep and not leaving the house.

Then, out of nowhere, Amazon says we've terminated your account and you will no longer be able to partipate in our program.

Hmmmm. Just my monthly bills alone are about 6k. I have a $300 a day personal cocaine addiction, plus a girl who's addicition is as bad as mine, and she relies on me for everything. I'm on top of the world in my own mind, and now this. Living a $1000 a day lifestyle, was reduced to nothing.

The credit cards came in handy over the next 6 months when I tried to get back onto the program, succeeding sometimes for few weeks. But, there was a fairly quick drop to being completely broke, selling most of what I owned, losing the girl, and gathering 65k in credit debt before they cut me off and we're calling 300 times a day to get their money before my phone got disconnected to where I left a suicide note on a forum, drank a bottle of tequilla, stuck an assault rifle in my mouth and pulled the trigger. To hear a click and then look around thinking your dead and nothing has changed is a really eery feeling. Then a knock at the door followed by the words "Jefferson County Sherrifs Department". WTF. Shove the gun under the couch and open the door to 3 Deputies standing there with a copy of the letter I posted on the forum 2 hours earlier asking if I wanted some help. Realizing then that the military surplus ammunition I bought had just misfired and I wasn't dead. ( Don't trust cartridges from the Vietnam war era to fire every time)

They ended up taking me to detox that night, detox refered me to a state-run inpatient drug rehibilatation center, which I went to for 3 months. Had my cousins move everything out of my apartment I was getting evicted from while I was there and into their house and moved into a spare room they had when I got out. Stayed there for about a year while doing stupid little things online to earn a few hundred bucks a month and did the online dating thing, screwed a lot of fat women.

Then got serious about life again, started an online business through ebay with $20 and an idea. Spent 6 months working 16-20 hours every day on the business. A year later that business is grossing $4k a week and steadily growing. I also got involved in myspace about this time, but not as a resource site, but as a spammer. Started out with making $600 the first month, 2400 the 2nd, 12,000 the 3rd, 36,000 the 4th, then bounced between 60 and 70k a month for about the last 7 months or so. Then, myspace blocked the bots and put up their spam filters starting a few weeks ago or so. Myspace can still be spammed on, there are already lots of people doing it again. But, I was smart this time with fast easy money. I saved pretty much all of it. I live off the interest, have bought a small house near the country, a basic used car, and the treat to myself..... a slightly used Lamborghini that sits covered in the garage.

I still run the business I started, it keeps me busy and gives me pride. The interest is plenty to live on confortably, take litle trips, and still not spend everything every month. But I want more than that, and eventually I might sell the business. I dunno. This is all new to me. But it's a good feeling. As long as I stay away from the slutty girls and cocaine, I have everything I need.

If another big fast easy money maker comes along and I get involved with it I'd make as much as fast as I could, But I still wouldn't live beyond what I know I can without it.

It's a true story.

I've seen several people who run into fast money and get used to what it can provide while it's still unstable money. They go from working factory jobs, to doing just the online thing and spending it as fast as they make it. I warn them all not to rely on it. Yet, they do. Then when it disappears they panick. They lose everything. Usually end up living with family or friends again. After working on your own for several months, or years, it sucks to have to go back to the factory jobs or working for someone else's pocket again.

My advice to EVERYONE who is making money on the internet.....
Save what you can of it.
Live humbly and within your means, be happy with what you have.
Don't Expect it to last forever. The internet changes fast, and what's working now won't be forever. Especially when it comes to making money off of a current fad.

Anyway, long rambling story, simple meaning. I'm bored obviously.

[Sergio]

Great post fanaticus, and welcome to MySpace Pros. I've only spent about $500 of all the money I've earned in the past couple of months, so I'm guessing I'm doing the right thing. Or not?

[cldnails]

GOOD STORY!

Thanks for sharing what you've had to learn the hard way.

[chasebadkids]

wow great post, if only I abided by that when I was making 40k a month. I wish I knew then, what I know now. Id be in a much better boat.

hey if you every wanna take anyone under your wing fanaticus, im here for ya. =] haha

[Kyle]

This is why I always preach NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.

What did you expect? Seriously...you think YPN advertisers want their legal, refinancing ads shown on myspace resource sites? What percentage of people want a layout of some rap artist with gold in his mouth also want to refinance their home? If you didn't see this coming then you my friend are a fool. You make $xxx a day off a myspace resource site by providing advertisers with non-targeted poor quality traffic.

You KNEW it was a risk...and you took that risk and you got burned..if it didn't happen today it would have happened tomorrow.


I totally agree, but I also really feel for Jeremy, mostly because Cancer is a monster that most of us can relate to in someway and for some reason that makes it different for me. It's not like he needs the money for rent, it's for medical bills, etc. If you have any ads for sale on your site PM me and I'll see if I can buy some spots.

[mikeb]

when life throws you lemons.

there is more money to be made through targeted CPA ads anyway.

YPN/adsense/adbrite/auctionads that **** is for n00bs.

get off your lazy *** and start earning dollars at the CPA networks instead of nickels with the big boys.

some good CPA networks payout weekly
many of their offers payout $1.50-$5 per lead with 10-40% conversion rates.

PM me if you want some links to good ones and i'll make sure you get approved.

I don't want to change the subject but CPA SUCKS on my site. Who actually clicks on these :censored: ads?

[Kyle]

I don't want to change the subject but CPA SUCKS on my site. Who actually clicks on these :censored: ads?


Nobody... Msspammer PM me :cheers:

[not2late]

Whoa, great read fanaticus. I still cannot imagine making that kind of money. There has to be a huge amount of skill involved as Ive been a bottom feeder for years despite the amount of time I spend at this.

[vulcanstudios]

Sorry I didn't read all 6 pages but my suggestion would be an idea I had a while back if your running MSRS sell all your embed links on images for a day by changeing the config.php so even though your still getting traffic and people are still using your image the basic linkback goes to someone elses site.

[Scilynt]

Anyway, long rambling story, simple meaning. I'm bored obviously.Holy ****e, great story. Could be a movie lol. Let me know when you start your mentoring program please! lol.

And yes, welcome to the community.

[Connections]

pimpmaspace chill out dude,

he has to work from home becuase his girl has cancer, I really feel sorry for you jeremy, I know how it feels to be in your situation.

But man wrk hard on your site, get adsense and some other advertising onto your page and see if you can make some $$$ move into other niches aswell build sites fast, try and use free advertising sources.

I hope it all works out for you man sorry to hear abotu your bad luck, but in part you are lucky becuase people liek me fomr australia cant even apply for YPN =(

[minnseoelite]

I would agree build other niches that are easy to get traffic to and adsense pays better on. I had a game site that was themed around Super Mario Brothers and just had about 50 animations, pages about the storylines of all the classic SMB games, and 5 pages of online SMB based flash games that I found and while the site only had like 200 uniques a day it still averaged $15 a day from adsense and once it got its PR updated I sold it for $1800

[dkextbmx]

i feel for you man, ive been canned before as well.

[Andria]

Sorry to hear Jeremy, just keep your head up and take some of the advice from other ppl.

I really commend you on taking care of your girlfriend, I don't have cancer but I do suffer with MS and I know meds and hospital bills can be insane.

Best wishes to you both.

[jeremy860]

Thanks everyone. yea I am thinking about starting a bunch of celebrity fans sites and work hard on on SEO or something. So far YPN owes me about $3,500 and I hope that comes in 90 day. I was planning on investing a little of that back into this stuff. What would you all do? I guess the only thing I can think of would be to possibly start buying low earning/traffic sites from people and then SEO optimise them and get them making more money.

twords the end of the month I am going to get another sales thread up for that 2k traffic, hopefully I can get a few buyers for that aswell.

I put adsense on my sites yesterday at 12pm and at the end of the day I only had made $15.22

so far today as of 10am I have only made $5.73

nice dip from what I am used to while making over $100 a day on YPN.

I think the thing that bugs me the most is they never even gave me a warning for anything, just pull the plug.

[George]

You'll survive man :)

An 85% to 90% drop in revenue would KILL any offline business.

Only on the internets can you bounce back from something like that.

[minnseoelite]

Some of the other niches can be harder to get traffic to but I think a celeb site shouldn't be much harder to drive traffic to. Get a good celeb fan site set up and then if you have a myspace bot start your self a new myspace account and use the Myspace groups feature to look for fan groups for the celeb fan site you have and gather up a bunch of targeted friends and herd them twards your fan site.

[Humbug]

I lost YPN the other day too....was a partnership where I recieved 75% of revenue from my sites, so my loss might not be as bad as others who lose their own YPN accounts, but bleah....

Running all adsense for now but it's barely worth it. Getting 10 times as many clicks but 1/5 as much money. Yesterday adsense didn't break $20 with 18,000 uniques and 1200 clicks.

[jeremy860]

Some of the other niches can be harder to get traffic to but I think a celeb site shouldn't be much harder to drive traffic to. Get a good celeb fan site set up and then if you have a myspace bot start your self a new myspace account and use the Myspace groups feature to look for fan groups for the celeb fan site you have and gather up a bunch of targeted friends and herd them twards your fan site.

yea I noticed when I came into the myspace game that it was alot easier to get alot of traffic to my resource site than its ever been with any other site i have owned.

Back in 2003-2004 I used to own a network of celeb fansites , so I have experience in getting traffic to those kind of sites. I regret selling all of them lol.

but yea I think i'll just pop one up at a time and go from there. thanks for that myspace groups tip, I have never used that before. I am thinking that is gonna come in handy. time to get to work.

[jeremy860]

I lost YPN the other day too....was a partnership where I recieved 75% of revenue from my sites, so my loss might not be as bad as others who lose their own YPN accounts, but bleah....

Running all adsense for now but it's barely worth it. Getting 10 times as many clicks but 1/5 as much money. Yesterday adsense didn't break $20 with 18,000 uniques and 1200 clicks.

oh wow, you are doing something wrong, try some better placements, because I only had 10,000 uniques yesterday and made $15 and I put the ads up at 12pm so they were only up for half a day.

[pimpmaspace]

Wow you are pretty harsh... you should spend your time cleaning up all the "user submitted" content that people upload from myspacestop and take a break from teaching people how to play the game ;)

sucks to hear the bad news jeremey.

Why would I bother cleaning it up? Im the one that submitted it, learn how to play the game squirt ;)

[jeremy860]

Why would I bother cleaning it up? Im the one that submitted it, learn how to play the game squirt ;)

the game of stealing other peoples hard work and making money off it? I surely hope thats not what you ment.

[Andria]

Why would I bother cleaning it up? Im the one that submitted it, learn how to play the game squirt ;)
How can you take pride in submitting another persons work to your website?

That's not playing the game, that's outright stealing. You act like you're site is so huge because of you and your wit, maybe it's big because you're stealing from the talented people and sitting on your ***.

[Humbug]

oh wow, you are doing something wrong, try some better placements, because I only had 10,000 uniques yesterday and made $15 and I put the ads up at 12pm so they were only up for half a day.

Can't be given better placement, it has the best one. Adsense just sucks with their smartpricing and 1 cent bids.

[SamOwen]

Man, that sucks. Well, at least they will pay you what they owe you...

[Ajay]

Why would I bother cleaning it up? Im the one that submitted it, learn how to play the game squirt ;)


wow, so you upload other site's content on your site.. and you're too lazy to even change the tags? that's awesome.

if that's you're idea of "playing the game" then you are an idiot.



P.S you are not scott storch.

[pimpmaspace]

wow, so you upload other site's content on your site.. and you're too lazy to even change the tags? that's awesome.

if that's you're idea of "playing the game" then you are an idiot.



P.S you are not scott storch.

I'm not going to give you any attention. Keep talking s-h-i-t, after you're done, get back to counting your pennies.

[Ajay]

please don't pm me with your "gangsta" bs. And just for the record, i'm not jealous of your 15k traffic... i'm more jealous of people like fwl and whateverlife.com.

thanks.


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Awww, jealous are we? Learn how to play the game *****.

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[pimpmaspace]

You're the one that came at me. Like I said, talk your s-h-i-t and get back to counting your pennies.

[minnseoelite]

@ajay @pimpmaspace

both of you cool it this thread is to help out a fellow member not for you two to start a fight on.

[Ajay]

I was done when he confused, "your" for "you're"

[pimpmaspace]

I come to this forum to sell links and chime in here and there when I feel like it. I'm pretty close with Greg and a few other members here - that’s what originally got me to join. There is indirect jealousy all over; I’m used to it, Ajay - go work on your sites bud. Not sure what persuaded you to starting playing Myspace detective, but it's stupid. Your lame acts of libel aren't making anyone here laugh or care more about what you have to say.

[unripekarma]

I'm disgusted by pimpmaspace.

All Jeremy is looking for is support from a group of people who can relate to what he is going through. I'm sorry to hear what's happen...

[MyspaceTraffic]

Stop acting all righteous... its not going to make you money. Start spamming while you still can. :)

It suck that you got banned but take this as a lesson and learn to diversify your income. Learn to make money from as many angle as possible. You put your life on the line with YPN.... WITH the fact that people were getting dropped by YPN with their crappy "poor quality" excuse all the time. You were pretty much gambling.

[Elvis.]

I'm disgusted by pimpmaspace.

All Jeremy is looking for is support from a group of people who can relate to what he is going through. I'm sorry to hear what's happen...


........:stupid:

[pimpmaspace]

Stop acting all righteous... its not going to make you money. Start spamming while you still can. :)

It suck that you got banned but take this as a lesson and learn to diversify your income. Learn to make money from as many angle as possible. You put your life on the line with YPN.... WITH the fact that people were getting dropped by YPN with their crappy "poor quality" excuse all the time. You were pretty much gambling.
Amen! Stop looking for support and get to work, your problems are nothing compared to what others are going thru.

[Ajay]

I come to this forum to sell links and chime in here and there when I feel like it. I'm pretty close with Greg and a few other members here - that’s what originally got me to join. There is indirect jealousy all over; I’m used to it, Ajay - go work on your sites bud. Not sure what persuaded you to starting playing Myspace detective, but it's stupid. Your lame acts of libel aren't making anyone here laugh or care more about what you have to say.


Yes, i'll go back to making pennies

[MyspaceTraffic]

I'm disgusted by pimpmaspace.

All Jeremy is looking for is support from a group of people who can relate to what he is going through. I'm sorry to hear what's happen...

Most of what he say is true... how is that disgusting? Everyone pretty much said the same im sorry crap.....

[bosshogg01]

hey pimpmaspace, why dont you go read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma#Western_interpretation

[Andria]

Most of what he say is true... how is that disgusting? Everyone pretty much said the same im sorry crap.....
There's a way to say something in a nice way. I don't possibly see how someone can be so cocky while stealing someone elses work to make profit.

[MyspaceTraffic]

Also you can look into CPA network for good income such as Millnic Media. They seem to convert really well.

Look around the forum for other offer... Maybe try putting up AdultFriendFinder ads on your site? That seem to work out really well for me and got me into more of their programs.

[pimpmaspace]

Most of what he say is true... how is that disgusting? Everyone pretty much said the same im sorry crap.....

Agreed, He comes on here crying about his bills and expects everyone to feel sorry for him. It's a cold world - learn to deal with it. You knew damn well YPN was going to kick you sooner or later; they've been doing it since last year.

All these other people sympathizing with him are all weaklings relying solely on ypn just like he was.

[unripekarma]

Most of what he say is true... how is that disgusting? Everyone pretty much said the same im sorry crap.....


He was rather harsh, but above that his blatant stealing and thinking it's a game is what I find disgusting.

[pimpmaspace]

There's a way to say something in a nice way. I don't possibly see how someone can be so cocky while stealing someone elses work to make profit.

You don't know the half, do a search on Google. ;) This has nothing to do with stealing work. It was originally stolen from us... Go read up on FWL, MMS, Freecodesource, Pyzam. None of them have any of their "own" work up. It's all user added, aka ripped off from other sites. Look at Createblog and Youtube. Pimpmaspace is a very legit site - I made 50% of all the layouts on the site last summer. There were also a few designers from myspacepros that worked on a lot of the content.

Don't make accusations unless you can back them up.

He was rather harsh, but above that his blatant stealing and thinking it's a game is what I find disgusting.

Read what I said...

[Andria]

You don't know the half, do a search on Google. ;) This has nothing to do with stealing work. It was originally stolen from us, and we stole it back.
So you're saying Sean stole work from you and put it on myspace stop? ....doubtful considering he is one of the best designers out there and wouldn't need to.

[MyspaceTraffic]

I have no idea what he/she did but... sometime you gotta stop being nice and get real. Don't put sugar on everything.. Be forward and blant so they can wake the f up.
Im not sure what stealing someone else work has to do anything with what being said here? Taking shot like that doesnt help.

There's a way to say something in a nice way. I don't possibly see how someone can be so cocky while stealing someone elses work to make profit.

[Andria]

I have no idea what he/she did but... sometime you gotta stop being nice and get real. Don't put sugar on everything.. Be forward and blant so they can wake the f up.
Im not sure what stealing someone else work has to do anything with what being said here? Taking shot like that doesnt help.
I wasn't the one who brought it up, and he seems pretty confident about stealing, so that's on him.

[pimpmaspace]

So you're saying Sean stole work from you and put it on myspace stop? ....doubtful considering he is one of the best designers out there and wouldn't need to.

I have nothing to explain to you. Our work was ripped off, not by Shaw, but by someone else. Can you guess who?

Stop worrying about others issues and focus on your own. I'm confident because like I said, you don't know the half of the story.

[Andria]

I have nothing to explain to you. Our work was ripped off, not by Shaw, but by someone else. Can you guess who?

Stop worrying about others issues and focus on your own.
That justifies you taking work from myspace stop? because your work was ripped off by someone else?

Whatever you say.

[minnseoelite]

Agreed, He comes on here crying about his bills and expects everyone to feel sorry for him. It's a cold world - learn to deal with it. You knew damn well YPN was going to kick you sooner or later; they've been doing it since last year.

All these other people sympathizing with him are all weaklings relying solely on ypn just like he was.

Excuse me I don't rely on YPN and alot of others here don't either and we are sympathizing because we are human and because of his situation not because he lost his YPN account

[pimpmaspace]

In that case, respect my opinion. I failed to see why anyone needs to sympathize with him. Him and his problems are like comparing pebbles to bolders in the real world. Therefor, I will not sympathize with him or anyone in this thread. Life is tough, learn how to deal with it. Whats done is done, move on. Don't cry about the past.


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[Ajay]

Him, his bills, and his girlfriend are like comparing pebbles to bolders in the real world.

it's because most of us are human :) I hope nobody you know gets cancer.

[jeremy860]

Look around the forum for other offer... Maybe try putting up AdultFriendFinder ads on your site?

I tryed adultfriendfinder at one point and did'nt make anything. unless I was doing something wrong. Have any tips? I would be more than willing to replace adsense with it if it made me more money.

[pimpmaspace]

it's because most of us are human :) I hope nobody you know gets cancer.

I have sympathy for his girlfriend. Don't get me wrong, I'm human to; stop putting words in my mouth. Getting back to the topic, she doesn't have a family, medical insurance, or anyone else except her adolescent boyfriend relying on his myspace resource site revenue to say afloat in the real world?

I like Jeremy, he has bought links for me. He's a good guy. I just don't like hearing people whine about their problems. Espacially ridicliously dumb problems like loosing your YPN account. People loose their lives every day overseas, and no one is complaining. Loosing YPN is hardly of importance to anyone.

[pimpmaspace]

I tryed adultfriendfinder at one point and did'nt make anything. unless I was doing something wrong. Have any tips? I would be more than willing to replace adsense with it if it made me more money.

I've thought about AFF, but you have to remember many younger people still visit resource sites. I wouldn't want angry mothers stopping their kids to visit my site because I have sexual ads. AFF belongs on porn and dating sites, not myspace resource sites.

[jeremy860]

I have sympathy for his girlfriend. Don't get me wrong, I'm human to; stop putting words in my mouth. Getting back to the topic, she doesn't have a family, medical insurance, or anyone else except her adolescent boyfriend relying on his myspace resource site revenue to say afloat in the real world?

not really , neither one of our family's have alot of money, besides we dont rely on our family to pay our bills for us. So yea basically all she has is me. we were doing completely fine until last year when she noticed she was having a hard time breathing and then went to the doctor and had a biopsy and found out she had cancer and a mass the size of a grapefruit in her chest. she worked fulltime housekeeping at the time so there was no health insurance and after you get cancer the companies usualy dont except pre-existing cancer cases. so therefor we are stuck with medical bills, luckly we had a few benifets to cover some of it.

anyways, I dont need to explain myself to you so please just leave my thread, I have now lost total respect for you.

[Andria]

not really , neither one of our family's have alot of money, besides we dont rely on our family to pay our bills for us. So yea basically all she has is me. we were doing completely fine until last year when she noticed she was having a hard time breathing and then went to the doctor and had a biopsy and found out she had cancer and a mass the size of a grapefruit in her chest. she worked fulltime housekeeping at the time so there was no health insurance and after you get cancer the companies usualy dont except pre-existing cancer cases. so therefor we are stuck with medical bills, luckly we had a few benifets to cover some of it.

anyways, I dont need to explain myself to you so please just leave my thread, I have now lost total respect for you.
Can she get on disability? Mass health and medicade covers those on disability. At least in my state.

[mikeb]

I tryed adultfriendfinder at one point and did'nt make anything. unless I was doing something wrong. Have any tips? I would be more than willing to replace adsense with it if it made me more money.

pm me re: AFF bro

[pimpmaspace]

not really , neither one of our family's have alot of money, besides we dont rely on our family to pay our bills for us. So yea basically all she has is me. we were doing completely fine until last year when she noticed she was having a hard time breathing and then went to the doctor and had a biopsy and found out she had cancer and a mass the size of a grapefruit in her chest. she worked fulltime housekeeping at the time so there was no health insurance and after you get cancer the companies usualy dont except pre-existing cancer cases. so therefor we are stuck with medical bills, luckly we had a few benifets to cover some of it.

anyways, I dont need to explain myself to you so please just leave my thread, I have now lost total respect for you.

Yea, well as of now I think you're a total joke. By the looks of your picture you look to be in your late teens to early 20's. Trying to support a person with cancer with your myspace resource site is an even a bigger joke then this thread, I feel sorry for your girlfriend.

All of the other people in this thread will be more then happy to sympathize with you - I won't. I feel sorry for your girlfriend. Relying on someone with income from a myspace resource site using a beta program is truly sad. Go work at McDonalds you will get insurance after 3 months - when it's supplied thru work certain providers accept everyone even with pre-existing conditions. Stop making excuses and whining about ypn. That’s what originally bothered me enough to post in this thread. The fact that your making excuses and whining instead of getting off your *** and trying to help the person you supposedly care about.

Everyone else, ya go ahead and call me inhumane, unsympathetic, cold hearted, w/e. I don't care. This guy is an immature chump looking for sympthathy because he's lazy and let himself get to this point. He's clearly not fit for entrepreneurship.

[Andria]

^ You're a jerk, straight up. And for your information, half of us are well above 21 years old, so your teeny bopper theory is weak.

[jeremy860]

All of the other people in this thread will be more then happy to sympathize with you - I won't. I feel sorry for your girlfriend. Relying on someone with income from a myspace resource site using a beta program is truly sad. Go work at McDonalds you will get insurance after 3 months. Stop making excuses and whining about ypn. That’s what originally bothered me enough to post in this thread. The fact that your making excuses and whining instead of getting off your *** and trying to help the person you supposedly care about.

Everyone else, ya go ahead and call me inhumane, unsympathetic, cold hearted, w/e. I don't care. This guy is looking for sympthathy. He's clearly not fit for entrepreneurship.

I'm halfway through college for an associates degree in computer networking. Only quit college for the moment to concentrate on this stuff and bring the money in. You obviously dont know anything about me as a person so dont try say you even feel sorry for my girlfriend.

mods please close this thread.

EDIT: btw, I'm 24yrs old.

[rob]

I'm halfway through college for an associates degree in computer networking. Only quit college for the moment to concentrate on this stuff and bring the money in. You obviously dont know anything about me as a person so dont try say you even feel sorry for my girlfriend.

mods please close this thread.

EDIT: btw, I'm 24yrs old.
By "concentrate on this stuff" I hope you meant the cancer and not your MySpace resource website, because if it's the latter then that was a very stupid decision to make.

[minnseoelite]

Yea, well as of now I think you're a total joke. By the looks of your picture you look to be in your late teens to early 20's. Trying to support a person with cancer with your myspace resource site is an even a bigger joke then this thread, I feel sorry for your girlfriend.

All of the other people in this thread will be more then happy to sympathize with you - I won't. I feel sorry for your girlfriend. Relying on someone with income from a myspace resource site using a beta program is truly sad. Go work at McDonalds you will get insurance after 3 months - when it's supplied thru work certain providers accept everyone even with pre-existing conditions. Stop making excuses and whining about ypn. That’s what originally bothered me enough to post in this thread. The fact that your making excuses and whining instead of getting off your *** and trying to help the person you supposedly care about.

Everyone else, ya go ahead and call me inhumane, unsympathetic, cold hearted, w/e. I don't care. This guy is an immature chump looking for sympthathy because he's lazy and let himself get to this point. He's clearly not fit for entrepreneurship.

honestly dude i dont care who you know on here, how your site is doing or how much money you make but you obviously don't belong here. You are rude and inconsiderate and expect people to bow to your way of thinking just because of the amount of money you make...FYI most of us "average" people could care less about people like you let alone envy you.

[jeremy860]

ok maybe I need to rephrase this.

I put college on hold to get money to pay some bills. Started building up my site and things were going very smoothly. made the money, took that money and put it twords "Girlfriends" medical bills and ect..

so yea, its all about her right now.

[minnseoelite]

dude you don't need to justify yourself to people here, you know your situation so just ignore the people being rude on here and do your own thing and be proud of it.

[pimpmaspace]

honestly dude i dont care who you know on here, how your site is doing or how much money you make but you obviously don't belong here. You are rude and inconsiderate and expect people to bow to your way of thinking just because of the amount of money you make...FYI most of us "average" people could care less about people like you let alone envy you.

I never once mentioned the sucess of my site, how much I make, or who I know. Not sure where you got that...I have every right to be here, just like you do. I stated my opinion, without personally attacking anyone, unlike a few others here. Respect my opinion, just how I respect yours. This is a debate, a civilized debate at that.

I'm done replying to this thread, as I said 4-5 posts ago. :detective:

[carlee]

I never once mentioned the sucess of my site, how much I make, or who I know. Not sure where you got that...I have every right to be here, just like you do. I stated my opinion, without personally acting anyone, unlike a few others here. Respect my opinion, just how I respect yours. This is a debate, a civilized debate at that.

... :no:

I come to this forum to sell links and chime in here and there when I feel like it. I'm pretty close with Greg and a few other members here - that’s what originally got me to join. There is indirect jealousy all over; I’m used to it, Ajay - go work on your sites bud. Not sure what persuaded you to starting playing Myspace detective, but it's stupid. Your lame acts of libel aren't making anyone here laugh or care more about what you have to say.

Jeremy, you really shouldn't give a crap what anyone else thinks and you certainly shouldn't be explaining yourself.

[minnseoelite]

so have you tried applying to value click media they pay decent if you use the right ad formats and are CPM

[unripekarma]

Jeremy I think what you chose to do is respectable and shows integrity... but it's true, you shouldn't care what others think nor do you have to explain yourself. You have the support of most of us here...

[mcfox]

Thread closed at request of OP.