Smoking or alcohol - which is worse?

[mcfox]

Don't want to detract from the other thread about teh ban on smoking, so which is the worst of the two evils - cigarettes or alcohol?

[Sergio]

I'm bias, I only drink so I say smoking is worse. However, both kill too many people. Smoking kills you in the long run, and drinking kills you when you drink and drive, or if you drink too much.

[mcfox]

What about all of the assaults and crime that is alcohol related? The Emergency Rooms of hospitals don't fill up every Fri and Sat night with smokers - they tend to die slower.

[Marty]

I don't care, i don't do either - they suck.

[NYCBORN]

My mother smoked and died from lung complications. I'd say smoking hands down. Alcohol does damage but has effects that slow you down from overly abusing it as much as ciggarettes. ie. you get drunk, hangovers, pass out.

[jeremy860]

I would say alcohol is more damaging to society as it tends to make people violent and stupid and alot of inocent people get killed over it.

A smoker aint gonna start acting stupid after a cigarrette and go drive 130 mph slamming into a family walking on the street.

[hayley]

I've just turned thirteen, so i don't do either (only the odd WKD). If a person wants to smoke, let them be, its their own choice and probably a comfort too, they know what their doing, same to people who drink. The only reason why i think they are wrong is the effects it has on people around them, but i suppose thats life, let your hair down and do what you want to do. No matter what the consequences are according to some people.

[NYCBORN]

I would say alcohol is more damaging to society as it tends to make people violent and stupid and alot of inocent people get killed over it.

A smoker aint gonna start acting stupid after a cigarrette and go drive 130 mph slamming into a family walking on the street.

I guess you never seen a smoker who ran out of smoke.

[PalmOS]

smoking effects a lot of ****, people that have to put up with the effects of smoking deal with more than dealing with a drunk person

smoking pollutes the air

smokings kills the people smoking it as well as others around them

[YabbaDoo]

There should be a "Both" option....I don't think either are worse than the other.. I chose "Don't care" but I do actually care....I think with anything in life it's about moderation, alcohol isn't really a bad thing, they say drinking a glass of red wine is GOOD for you now. So alcohol in its self is not bad, just the effects it has when OVERUSED are bad...However, Smoking is bad. full stop. it's like only invented for bad reasons and unlike with my wine statement, there is no science to show smoking as a good thing, or at least I bloody hope not =/
And I don't smoke or do DRUGS another option, as that, IMO, is worse than both :P..But I do drink, I just don't do it very often and when I do I'm relatively responsible....

[GREGO]

alot of good points here. Alchohol can cause some people to become violant and/or make poor decisions. It can cause anything from a drunk driving accident or an unnescesary fight to a unwanted pregnancy.

Ciggarettes cause cancer and other bodily harm but at least it only hurts the user.

I don't smoke so i can't really say to much. I have been known to do a little drinking and sometimes it makes for a fun memorable night and other times it gets me in trouble.

[YabbaDoo]

Ciggarettes cause cancer and other bodily harm but at least it only hurts the user.

Second Hand Smoke? (http://www.gosmokefree.co.uk/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=ilevel_search)

[minnseoelite]

Well I do both but as far as effecting society as a whole its alcohol hands down. Alcohol kills and hurts more innocent people than smoking does. Just look at the papers how many sad stories do you see of a family morning cause a loved one died from being around second hand smoke.......none

How many articles do you see about loved ones morning over the death of a loved one killed by a drunk driver......at least a couple a month

Then there is the cost of incriminating drunk drivers in the court system, holding them in jail, rehab, automotive insurance claims.......I have a friend that works at the local rehab center and he says it costs tax payers $50,000 a month to keep someone in rehab with the average stay being 6 - 9 months thats $300,000 - $450,000 of wasted tax payer money for every dumb drunk in rehab

[GREGO]

not to mention most alcoholics will regress back to binging within a year after their rehab :)

[Spacer]

smokes i think

[minnseoelite]

not to mention most alcoholics will regress back to binging within a year after their rehab :)

The failure rate is something like 60% so for every $450,000 we waste on someone to go into court ordered rehab there is a 60% chance that within a couple of years us tax payers will have to pay another $450,000 for the same person to go back into rehab again.......

[Kasami2k4]

Id rather someone get completely pissfaced around me than smoke ._. Least then it only harms them. Besides, alcohol is good for you in moderation. Who can say the same about smoking? People say smoking helps relieve stress, yet theres tons of scientific proof that says it actually causes stress.

[mcfox]

There should be a "Both" option....I don't think either are worse than the other.. I chose "Don't care" but I do actually care....
Done ... and I've changed your vote to 'both'.

Some good points being put forward. I do think, however, that age seems to be a factor in how people view smoking v's drinking with the older peeps leaning towards alcohol and the younger members towards smoking as the worst.

[Kasami2k4]

I'm almost 23!!! =p And edumicated! Long term, Long run, smoking is worse, for the environment, the people in it etc etc.

[Greg-J]

I don't have the time to go on a particularly long tirade, but as bad as alcohol is I ****ing hate people who smoke with their children in the car, house, whatever. I think they're about as bad as it gets and I'd just assume shove a tire iron in their *** than let them continue breathing.


To say I feel strongly on the issue would be an understatement, but I loathe these people. If you want to smoke, that's fine. But stop poisoning the people around you.

[Assailant]

you cant compare...they both have different negative effects. As for your poll question, I dont smoke but I am damaging to society while on alcohol.

Im with greg on the smoking issue...if you want to poison yourself...so be it...but nobody has the right to force anyone else to be poisoned. If you cant control your addiction enough to not smoke around others, then you should seek some sort of counceling.

[Selena]

I think both are bad, but with my stepdad as a smoker, and the fact that he can barely breathe sort of biases me to smoking being worse. As well, I can't even run track anymore because he smokes around me TOO much and my lungs have been damaged too much for me to breathe right while running.

I tend to be a binge drinker, and at this young age its not healthy for me AT all. And when I drink I smoke, every time. So in a way the alcohol is definitely worse for me personally, because without the alcohol I do not have any desire to smoke. So alcohol affects me for one, then puts me into the cigarrette mode, giving me the effects of cigarettes too. I should stop. Gahhh.

[Kasami2k4]

I don't smoke and very very very rarely drink, because I am falling over myself after very little. Probably because I weigh 40 pounds (joke)

My friends usually have to support me when Im drunk though, or I just fall over passed out. I'm a funny drunk though :D *has been told by many!*

Apparently i love everyone ;(

[Selena]

Umm lets just say I get very "friendly" with boys when I'm drunk. Its not really good for me. But I'm not violent or anything. So of course the guys have NO problem with me getting drunk around them. But some of my smoking friends do get mad because I steal their ciggarettes when i'm drunk. But I try not to get drunk too much I suppose.

[minnseoelite]

you cant compare...they both have different negative effects. As for your poll question, I dont smoke but I am damaging to society while on alcohol.

Im with greg on the smoking issue...if you want to poison yourself...so be it...but nobody has the right to force anyone else to be poisoned. If you cant control your addiction enough to not smoke around others, then you should seek some sort of counceling.

We are not forcing you to be poisoned lmao no one says you have to go to bars to drink you do it on your own will knowing that there are smokers there but your addiction to alcohol is so bad you will knowingly and willing go into a bar an poison yourself just to have a drink....then when your done drinking and have satisfied your addiction to alcohol you will complain that you had to be around smokers to do it, but you didn't you can drink anywhere but you CHOOSE to do it around smokers so stop the whining be an adult and go drink somewhere else if it bothers you sooooo badly. People just want a reason to ***** and whine cause their lives are boring and they need something to ***** about to make them feel better so they complain about smoking at bars when the solution is simple...GO someplace else or give up drinking but dont try and force others to change just so you can be comfortable while killing yourself with a different poison

[shimmeringgraphix]

Here's how I see it.

Smoking

Cancers of mouth/lung
2nd hand smoke (kills others)
bad breath
You smell.
Your house smells
Costs
Turns your teeth yellow


Drinking

Kills your liver
Can kill others (drinking and driving)
Makes you look like an idiot
Can kill you if you drink too much



So basically they both kill the user and others around them, therefore I think they are both bad.

[minnseoelite]

I don't have the time to go on a particularly long tirade, but as bad as alcohol is I ****ing hate people who smoke with their children in the car, house, whatever. I think they're about as bad as it gets and I'd just assume shove a tire iron in their *** than let them continue breathing.


To say I feel strongly on the issue would be an understatement, but I loathe these people. If you want to smoke, that's fine. But stop poisoning the people around you.

I would agree with you on smoking around kids whether in the car, house, or other enclosed areas thats just wrong cause the kids dont know any better and alot of the times are forced to stay in the same area as their smoking parents and dont have a choice cause they are kids. Adults on the other hand do have a choice if you dont like it go somewhere away from the smoke....

And as for smoking and the environment thats just dumb in comparison to all the factories and cars spewing out pollution the smoke from all the smokers in the world is nothing and might contribute a whole 0.001% to the problems with the environment.

[Andria]

I don't have the time to go on a particularly long tirade, but as bad as alcohol is I ****ing hate people who smoke with their children in the car, house, whatever. I think they're about as bad as it gets and I'd just assume shove a tire iron in their *** than let them continue breathing.


To say I feel strongly on the issue would be an understatement, but I loathe these people. If you want to smoke, that's fine. But stop poisoning the people around you.
They banned smoking in the car with children under the age of 7 in Massachusetts, not sure about anywhere else.

Both are bad for you really, you can die from either or.

[minnseoelite]

Here's how I see it.

Smoking

Cancers of mouth/lung
2nd hand smoke (kills others)
bad breath
You smell.
Your house smells
Costs
Turns your teeth yellow


Drinking

Kills your liver
Can kill others (drinking and driving)
Makes you look like an idiot
Can kill you if you drink too much



So basically they both kill the user and others around them, therefore I think they are both bad.

Ok well there are fixes for some of those

Smoking

Cancers of mouth/lung
2nd hand smoke (kills others) - Move
bad breath - Brush your darn teeth
You smell.
Your house smells - Smoke outside
Costs - Being a regular drinker costs more
Turns your teeth yellow - Again brush and use targon

[Andria]

Ok well there are fixes for some of those

Smoking

Cancers of mouth/lung
2nd hand smoke (kills others) - Move
bad breath - Brush your darn teeth
You smell.
Your house smells - Smoke outside
Costs - Being a regular drinker costs more
Turns your teeth yellow - Again brush and use targon

True, adults can move from smoke. At a casino I was at, there was smoking and non smoking tables, we were at a smoking table and the ppl there were like "ugh i hate smoke, i cant breathe"

Well go to the friggen non smoking table then...

[minnseoelite]

They banned smoking in the car with children under the age of 7 in Massachusetts, not sure about anywhere else.

Both are bad for you really, you can die from either or.


Yes you can and thats my point if you are going to poison yourself with alcohol don't complain about being poisoned with smoke it makes you look like a tard. Thats like people that snort crack but say they don't drink cause they don't want liver cancer. The only people I will watch my smoking around is those that do not do anything smoke, drink, drugs. Cause those people are truely concerned about their health and deserve the respect.

[Kasami2k4]

Where's your fix for the inability to breathe? ;p Smoking affects everything it touches. You can tell someones a smoker by walking into their house


Heres some more reasons smoking suck

PHLEGM
Nausea from smoking too often
Ugly skin
Withdrawals and mood swings
Always thirsty
Kissing a smoker when their lips are all dry and chapped, ew
Makes you tired
Makes you lose your sense of taste and smell

The only pro is socializing with other smokers

Alcohol however, moderated can reduce your risk of heart disease, strokes, DIABETIES

But.. alcohol can actually cause cancer in things such as your pancreas, and breast cancer, miscarriages. Smoking has its own cons with pregnancy
Alcohol is also a depressant and can cause suicide.

So to the individual, rethinking it, I think alcohol is pretty horrible. But to society, still smoking :p

[minnseoelite]

True, adults can move from smoke. At a casino I was at, there was smoking and non smoking tables, we were at a smoking table and the ppl there were like "ugh i hate smoke, i cant breathe"

Well go to the friggen non smoking table then...


Those are the people that I walk up and stab in the eye with a hot french fry just cause they are dumb

[minnseoelite]

Where's your fix for the inability to breathe? ;p Smoking affects everything it touches. You can tell someones a smoker by walking into their house

Im a smoker and my gf is allergic to it and can smell it a mile away but you cant tell I am a smoker by coming into my house unless you walk up next to me

[mcfox]

I'm almost 23!
Like I said, the younger generation tends towards smoking being worse. Us oldies seem to be leaning toward alcohol.

Visit any ER and the police holding cells on a Friday or Saturday night and you will see the results of alcohol.

@Greg - Don't beat about - say what you really think. :punchout:

[Andria]

Like I said, the younger generation tends towards smoking being worse. Us oldies seem to be leaning toward alcohol.

Visit any ER and the police holding cells on a Friday or Saturday night and you will see the results of alcohol.

@Greg - Don't beat about - say what you really think. :punchout:
Agreed.

My mother has smoked for I dunno, 30 years, and she used to drink for about 20 years.

She got put into the hospital because of the alcohol, she was bleeding severely due to it, she never had to go to the hospital for smoking.

It woke her up to quit drinking, she's been sober for 5 months now and feels so much better as a whole.

They are both terrible habits but alcohol can mess your body up faster than smoking.

[Kasami2k4]

I edited my previous post!!

Im from Detroit originally, greg. most our hospitals are filled with gun and knife related crimes.

[minnseoelite]

I edited my previous post!!

Im from Detroit originally, greg. most our hospitals are filled with gun and knife related crimes.

Yea gun and knife related crimes where someone was intoxicated and stabbed someone else lol

[Kasami2k4]

Nah.. Usually just angry :\

[minnseoelite]

well while this thread is fun i got to get me some work done :P

[YabbaDoo]

smoking in publics getting banned here soon, like tottally banned.

[minnseoelite]

well i must be doing something wrong cause I have been smoking for 16 years and

1. My fingers and hands are not yellow
2. My lips are not at all dry
3. My skin is actually better than most
4. I don't have phlem or cough
5. I can still run for blocks
6. I get less colds than non smokers (like 1 a year)

Maybe it has something to do with the fact I cut down from 2 1/2 packs to 1 pack a day about 3 years ago.........

[Maz]

They're not really comparable. Alcohol in moderation is not harmful to you or others around you. Smoking (and who smokes in moderation?) is.
They cause different health problems.

I cannot wait until July (or June?) when our smoking ban takes place, it'll be awesome. And if there was a ban on alcohol there'd be no negative impact on my life either.

[minnseoelite]

people think that a smoking ban will be great and blah blah blah they wont have to breath in smoke but there will always be those people that ignore the ban or stand next to you outside smoking away and since all you smokers think its sooooo hard to just walk away you will still have to suffer.....tell me what good is not smoking and being healthy if you are to darn lazy to just walk away from the person smoking....no instead you will stand there like a moron whining for 15 minutes about the smoke when you could just move

[Matt]

Smoking affects the people around you.... it's discusting.

[minnseoelite]

yes it is gross but its so addictive its not even funny. i remember when i tried to quit went for 2 months and then decided it was cheaper to smoke rather than keep fixing or replacing the things i would break every time some little thing would piss me off......drop a bowl of food on the floor get pissed and kick it into the wall shattering the bowl and sending food flying all over the place...holes in the walls ect. ect. ect.

[Maz]

I'm sure the penalty will deter a lot of people from defying the ban. They don't want to waste all that fag money.

[minnseoelite]

yes and then the courts will be even more strained then they are and will cost more tax payer money to process all the violators just because non smokers are to ignorant to just move over 10 steps people try to praise all these smoking bans but in the end it will just cost you non smokers money from your taxes which is no different then you buying them for us lol.....thanks for supporting my habit

[Maz]

I (legally) don't pay taxes so 'tis no skin off my nose, and is still costing the smoker money. Beautiful.

[minnseoelite]

well this is getting to be a bore need a new topic to debate

[Maz]

you dont pay taxes...so what are you one of those sucking off the welfare nipple
What does that matter?

[minnseoelite]

cause then you have no right to complain about smokers messing with other peoples lives if you don't even support yourself but let everyone else support you through welfare while they have to go out and work their asses off

well this was fun hope to see you around the forum some more

[YabbaDoo]

I think you are both being ridiculous and selfish.
1) Taxes matter to EVERYONE, so don't say comments like no skin off my nose, coz even though, I understand you said it in defense, taxes are everyones problem lol...I'm 16 and worry lol, anyways you pay tax and VAT on everything automatically in England, even just buyin' a pack of gum.
2) Minnseoelite - How selfish of you, if somebody is having to breath in a DEADLY toxin you are giving off, that's YOUR problem, YOU should move, that's like saying a terrorist is walking up to you with a deadly bomb, pointing it at you, and you should move out the way!, surely they shouldn't be there in the FIRST place?!

[YabbaDoo]

Also, whoever said about the smoking ban costing the tax payer more money, do you have any idea of how COMPLEX this topic is?

1) Keeping smoking gives the GOV a HUGE amount of cash every year in tax they make off cigs...
2) The idiots are now realizing that it's actually causing them to LOSE money in the NHS, more people requiring medical attention on the health service because of problems caused by ciggarettes (I so can't spell that and wanna type FAGS but there's americans on this Forum and it means something else over there lol)
3) the ban is going to cost money, legally, at first as so many people will break it.
SHORT TERM EFFECTS ^^^
Long term:
People will eventually be FORCED to give up as in the long term the ban will get tighter and tighter and one day smoking will actually be made completely illegal here.
The majority of smokers WANT to give up, this will give them the kick up the *** they need to do it....
In the long term people will quit, and smokers will "die" out...no more smokers means less strain on the NHS etc etc in the long term it will SAVE money...
You guys always say "YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY!" this is based on the exact same theory....

[Connections]

cigarettes are bad I guess, but alco is really bad aswell. I am really feelign the effects of a big night last night hehehe....had way to much to drink at the local club, my mate scored a bunch of free drinks some how and was giving out drinks to every one and then I blew like 200 bucks on drinks as-well lol....

Alcohol is ok if you do it like 2-3 times a week like I do, I only ever get ****faced on liek friday and sat nights, but its really bad when people drink every day they do turn to ****.

[minnseoelite]

I think you are both being ridiculous and selfish.
1) Taxes matter to EVERYONE, so don't say comments like no skin off my nose, coz even though, I understand you said it in defense, taxes are everyones problem lol...I'm 16 and worry lol, anyways you pay tax and VAT on everything automatically in England, even just buyin' a pack of gum.
2) Minnseoelite - How selfish of you, if somebody is having to breath in a DEADLY toxin you are giving off, that's YOUR problem, YOU should move, that's like saying a terrorist is walking up to you with a deadly bomb, pointing it at you, and you should move out the way!, surely they shouldn't be there in the FIRST place?!


Ummm yes if a terrorist was walking up to me with a bomb I would move out of the way. And they shouldn't be there but they are can't change that so yes again I would move....but I suppose all you non smokers would just stand there and say hey your going to kill me why dont you move lmao

[Ad disengaged]

Smoking is far worse for you health. Millions of people die a slow painful death of lung cancer and is is very addicting.

[Andria]

Smoking is far worse for you health. Millions of people die a slow painful death of lung cancer and is is very addicting.
True, and millions of people die from being crushed in a car accident because of alcohol.

I never heard of an incident where smoking a cigarette caused a huge car crash and killed innocent people.

[minnseoelite]

Smoking is far worse for you health. Millions of people die a slow painful death of lung cancer and is is very addicting.

Yes but so isn't liver and pancreatic cancer. And to those that insist on staying healthy...why you are not going to live forever and yes you may live longer but thats just going to be an extra 10 years of living in a nursing home with some other ailment, joints that hurt like hell every day, crapping and pissing yourself all day long, and nurses walking by you ignoring you cause they claim they can't do anything for you and are tired of hearing you and the other 120 residents complain all day long (believe me my gf works dietary in a nursing home and thats exactly how it is)

So why not enjoy yourself while your young and stop worrying about everyone elses habits 80% of people die from some medical problem that causes them to suffer for years whether you live healthy or not there is just to many diseases and other things to avoid it

[YabbaDoo]

Ummm yes if a terrorist was walking up to me with a bomb I would move out of the way. And they shouldn't be there but they are can't change that so yes again I would move....but I suppose all you non smokers would just stand there and say hey your going to kill me why dont you move lmao

Oh, irrational much?
You know exactly the point I was trying to make....
BOTH are bad, so are drugs. period. lol

[Andria]

What i hate most is those who say "ew I don't smoke ciggs they are so bad for you" yet smoke weed every day.

[YabbaDoo]

What i hate most is those who say "ew I don't smoke ciggs they are so bad for you" yet smoke weed every day.


OMG! Yes, that pisses me off more than anything!!!

[minnseoelite]

yes i know and yes both are bad

[mcfox]

I'll be honest - I didn't expect cigarettes would be voted as 'worse for society' over alcohol - I thought the result would be about 50 / 50.

My own opinion is that alcohol is far more damaging to society than cigarettes. Smoking may damage an individual's health and may have secondary health effects on those who are consistantly around smokers but to my mind alcohol damages society much more.

Some examples where alcohol regularly plays a part:

Domestic Violence
Assaults
Murders

Sexually transmitted infections
Unwanted pregnancies

[Maz]

cause then you have no right to complain about smokers messing with other peoples lives if you don't even support yourself but let everyone else support you through welfare while they have to go out and work their asses off

well this was fun hope to see you around the forum some more
Wow, what an ignorant comment. Well done in turning a light-hearted debate into a personal attack against another forum member. But then, typically, that's what people do when they're wrong and they know it, so it's no surprise.

Obviously, I and many others have been misled when we believed the welfare was there for people who want to work but can't, as opposed to the truth that it's there for those who don't want to work and want to take money off you, the hard working smoker.

Congratulations on losing an argument, and admitting defeat in record timing.

[mcfox]

Let's keep it polite, people.

[Carrielynne]

I don't think either is bad, just the dumbasses who don't use them responsibly. If I had to choose one I would have to say alcohol because it drastically affects a persons common sense.

[minnseoelite]

ok maz i do apologize was not meant to offend i was refering to those that can work but don't.........

and i never admitted defeat lol i am just bored with this topic now

[jeremy860]

I don't think either is bad, just the dumbasses who don't use them responsibly. If I had to choose one I would have to say alcohol because it drastically affects a persons common sense.

ditto! I hate being around drunks because I cant stand how stupid they act, unless I'm drunk myself ofcourse.

[Carrielynne]

ditto! I hate being around drunks because I cant stand how stupid they act, unless I'm drunk myself ofcourse.

Yea they bother me too. Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to get a bit hammered sometimes but people should do it with friends or people they know that don't mind it, not in the local Applebee's stumbling all over people out with their families and children.

[Selena]

Yea they bother me too. Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to get a bit hammered sometimes but people should do it with friends or people they know that don't mind it, not in the local Applebee's stumbling all over people out with their families and children.


I couldnt agree more. Although I may be an alcoholic when I get older, I simply refuse to ever drink around my children or my family. I find it to be ok if you are with friends, at a party, etc, but I can't honestly get over the fact that there are people who go home to their families and get drunk while they are at home supposed to be caring for their children.

If I end up still drinking a lot at an older age when I have children, I'll never drink around them, ever. I grew up with an alcoholic stepdad who didn't give a care whether he drank at home, while driving, or at some random place, he was always drinking, and i refuse for that to be me.

[Andria]

Alcoholism is genetic, smoking isn't. which is another negative about alcohol. Either way, both bad, but who cares? let ppl do what they want.

[sshjustkissme]

Either way, both bad, but who cares? let ppl do what they want.

ditto. voted for both.

[lyzyrdgyzyrd]

More lives and families have been destroyed by alcohol than by every war and natural disaster in the history of the world. I think it is sad that this can be sold on every streetcorner and supermarket in town. And people who do not use it have to worry about drunks running them over.

[minnseoelite]

I dont worry about them running me over as I am old enough to know to pay attention when I am out walking.....I worry about them running my kid over on her way to school, coming home from school, or out playing with friends as young kids tend to get distracted and don't always pay close attention to what they are doing.

......Any drunk ever hits my kid I will walk right into the court house and blow the mother f**ker away then i would just have my lawyer site extreme mental distress and get away with a little jail time and some counseling

[Selena]

Alcoholism is genetic,

Is it really? No wonder. My mom and grandma both used to be alcoholics, before i was born, but nonetheless both were.

[jeremy860]

Alcohol takes another life.


A drunk dude in a yukon traveling down the wrong lane

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[jeremy860]

after watching this , i might just quit smoking :)

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[xZayna24]

I voted both, just because there are numerous people everyday that die from both.
I dont know. I havent done either...

[Connections]

people need to understadn if you drink like once or twice a week like I usually do its perfectly fine, it wont screw up your liver at all..

but if you smoke a few times a week it will actually screw up your lungs in the long run..

I got no problem with smokers I got a few mates who are full on chainos so I probly do get a **** load of 2nd hand smoke which does suck.....

[GreenSpeed21]

Cigs are way worse. They kill you in the long run. While Alcohol kills your brain and makes you do stupid choices.

[wce]

I think its a silly question to be honest. The leading causes of death are heart disease, stroke and lung cancer. All of which are caused by smoking. Statistics speak for themselves.

Also is this thread smoking vs. alcohol, or smoking vs. alcoholism? Remember, they're two different things. Even so, the guy who drinks a bottle of vodka each night is certainly going to have some issues in his life, but it won't effect anyone else. The guy who smokes a pack of cigs is not only damaging his lungs, but other people around him. It's amazing how many people die each year due to second hand smoke.