Why I'm Against.

[John]

Okay so today in Goverment, we were talking about Sarah Palin & McCain.
Let me just say i am so against Palin. First she puts her PREGNANT daughter into her political business, and now tabloids are attacked her. Nice Palin nice ;). Instead of her telling people to keep her out of it, and put everything on her.. she decides not to.. ****ed up!
Palin is FOR guns. So she thinks everyone should have gun, that is just going to increase violence, so now cities that have gun control are gonna be ripped down and are gonna let people have guns. For example... D.C has one of the biggest crime rates... and they have gun control there.. Now Palin will delete that, and make it so they can have guns. FAIL!
Than she is against abortion. So lets just say Someone gets raped one night.. and ends up pregnant.. she cant get an abortion in the early stages.. she is going to have to carry the rapist's baby. Im not saying abortion is OK.. i'm saying it should be legal, since you never know the story behind why they want an abortion.

This is wrong.. I don't want Obama winning either.... its just a big mess..

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[Mimi]

You mean you're saying it should be legal, not illegal...

How did she put her daughter into her political business btw?

[John]

How did she put her daughter into her political business btw?

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-palin2-2008sep02,0,3666723.story

[Mimi]

I meant like how did she force it? It just seemed like you were saying she somehow forced the news to come out or something, idk. And even if she does say "hey, leave my daughter out of this", do you honestly think they'd listen? I don't.

[John]

I meant like how did she force it? It just seemed like you were saying she somehow forced the news to come out or something, idk. And even if she does say "hey, leave my daughter out of this", do you honestly think they'd listen? I don't.

What kind of Mother would really let there 17 year old daughter get on stage in front of millions saying she is pregnant?
Its not any ones business since nothing involves preggo in the first place.

John McCain, campaigning in Ohio and Pennsylvania, did not take questions from reporters. But aides said the Arizona senator was aware of the Palin family's situation when he stunned observers Friday by choosing Alaska's governor as his running mate. His aides also warned that the media would face a backlash if it pried too deeply into the Palins' lives.

[xxsean]

that has nothing to do with it!
what was she going to do?
not tell everyone and then wait till she got into office to tell people the truth?
she did the right thing

[John]

that has nothing to do with it!
what was she going to do?
not tell everyone and then wait till she got into office to tell people the truth?
she did the right thing

Its not anyone's business.
You don't see everyone all over George Bush's kids? Do you now? No

[Mimi]

It actually does involve being pregnant. Palin doesn't support sex education in schools yet it's obvious her daughter needs it :whistling:. But who cares if her daughter announces she's pregnant? It's not like it's something the media wasn't going to find out.

[John]

Palin doesn't support sex education in schools yet it's obvious her daughter needs it :whistling:.

Yup... Imagine all the teenage kids who dont learn about condoms...

[xxsean]

well look
either way.. wed be informed of her personal life. So why not be up front?
whatever you say has absolutely no fact to back it up
by introducing her daughter to her voters, they got to see not only who she was politically.. which can work to her advantage
she is a strong woman and her daughter being able to stand up in front of all those people and inform them of what was going on.. that takes alot of guts

so
you have a right to have your own opinion
but.. thts mine

[John]

whatever you say has absolutely no fact to back it up


rofl rofl rofl fail.

[Sara]

Its not anyone's business.
You don't see everyone all over George Bush's kids? Do you now? No

think before you speak.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushtwinsnews/Bush_Twins_News_and_Gossip.htm

[rufus]

Palin is FOR guns. So she thinks everyone should have gun, that is just going to increase violence, so now cities that have gun control are gonna be ripped down and are gonna let people have guns. For example... D.C has one of the biggest crime rates... and they have gun control there.. Now Palin will delete that, and make it so they can have guns. FAIL!


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Ummmm just a bit of knowledge here. Whoever said DC has control well they dont.

On the most significant day of legislative activity on gun control since the high court ended the District's 32-year-old handgun ban in June, the council voted unanimously to ease some contentious firearms restrictions while the U.S. House of Representatives considered a more dramatic measure that would limit the city's power to regulate guns.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/16/AR2008091602223.html?hpid=moreheadlines

That happened in June of this year. Palin wasnt even in the picture at all. Its called the Supreme Court Action. So that is a dead issue. Strike 1 for you.

This is a double edged sword here. Gun control does one thing. Makes it so the honest law abiding person cant have a gun to protect himself and his family and only the criminals will have them since they dont follow laws anyways.

The part about the daughter being pregnant isnt even a debate. She wants to support her Mom Pregnant or not. The media already knew she was and it was about to come out Im sure...So what ? I didnt see anyone holding a gun to her head making her be there.

[GREGO]

I think if palin is allowed to capture voters by glorifying her hockey mom BS and the fact that she takes great care of a child with Down syndrome that she should have to accept the attention her family gets on the other side as well.

She has made it clear that she is all for promoting abstinence and all that crap and then her own 17 year old daughter is pregnant? Yeah nice mothering there miss hockey mom. And then she states, "she's getting married to the father" oh that's even better, force your 17 year old daughter to get married because she is pregnant. That's great, and you wonder why divorce rates are so high in this country.

Palin can't have her cake and eat it too. everyone is so hung up over her stupid pitbull lipstick quote - is that not family related? Sorry toots but you try and force your morals onto everyone else and yet you can't even keep your own underage daughter from breaking them.

and yes, people out there are actually so stupid that they are going to vote for Mccain because of the hockey mom pit bull lipstick crap. My own Step dad exclaimed "wow, I know who I'm voting for now" :rolleyes:

[xxsean]

maybe thats why she promotes abstinence?
you should take into consideration that maybe her daughters pregnancy has turned her view around and is now telling other kids to think before they do anything?

i mean many teens nowadays tend to spring into action when they get the chance...

Palin is doing the right thing. hands down

[John]

I think if palin is allowed to capture voters by glorifying her hockey mom BS and the fact that she takes great care of a child with Down syndrome that she should have to accept the attention her family gets on the other side as well.

She has made it clear that she is all for promoting abstinence and all that crap and then her own 17 year old daughter is pregnant? Yeah nice mothering there miss hockey mom. And then she states, "she's getting married to the father" oh that's even better, force your 17 year old daughter to get married because she is pregnant. That's great, and you wonder why divorce rates are so high in this country.

Palin can't have her cake and eat it too. everyone is so hung up over her stupid pitbull lipstick quote - is that not family related? Sorry toots but you try and force your morals onto everyone else and yet you can't even keep your own underage daughter from breaking them.

and yes, people out there are actually so stupid that they are going to vote for Mccain because of the hockey mom pit bull lipstick crap. My own Step dad exclaimed "wow, I know who I'm voting for now" :rolleyes:


yup i agree!!! :detective:

[John]

Ummmm just a bit of knowledge here. Whoever said DC has control well they dont.
Never said they did.. i said the fact they have gun control.. thx Dufus

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/b...and_Gossip.htm

LOL! That **** is nothing as big as Palin's knocked up daughter.. thanks again.

[rufus]

Well Grego back to reality now.

Good Parents can have bad kids. Kids that dont listen regardless of what a Parent teaches them. Palins daughter is an example of that. She may not be wide open wild but she did go against what she was taught as a child. Dont we all to a certain point. I mean we our own person and we take into account what our parents tell us but the final decision is on the kid themselves.

[John]

Well Grego back to reality now.

Good Parents can have bad kids. Kids that dont listen regardless of what a Parent teaches them. Palins daughter is an example of that. She may not be wide open wild but she did go against what she was taught as a child. Dont we all to a certain point. I mean we our own person and we take into account what our parents tell us but the final decision is on the kid themselves.

Im sure Palin's daughter didnt decide to get knocked up..

[xxsean]

she probably didnt!
rofl

i love how you think it might have just been her decision to just get pregnant
58% of teenage pregnancies are accidents

so. idk what your talking about

[rufus]

Im sure Palin's daughter didnt decide to get knocked up..

1st off are you like not reading anything that is said ? Not even your own posts ??

She made the decision to commit the act that got her pregnant. And as far as you not saying DC had Gun Control heres your own words.

D.C has one of the biggest crime rates... and they have gun control there.. Now Palin will delete that, and make it so they can have guns. FAIL!

Now since they did have Gun Control all the way up till this past June and it had one of the countries highest crime and murder rates do ya really think that gun control was working ? No it wasnt cause only the criminals had guns cause they dont follow laws.

And also there is no need for name calling but I guess it makes you feel somewhat bigger or something. You also quoted the LATimes as a source which is one of the most liberal papers in the US.

[bosshogg01]

By By John Stossel http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-10_19_05_JS.html

Guns are dangerous. But myths are dangerous, too. Myths about guns are very dangerous, because they lead to bad laws. And bad laws kill people.

"Don't tell me this bill will not make a difference," said President Clinton, who signed the Brady Bill into law.

Sorry. Even the federal government can't say it has made a difference. The Centers for Disease Control did an extensive review of various types of gun control: waiting periods, registration and licensing, and bans on certain firearms. It found that the idea that gun control laws have reduced violent crime is simply a myth.

I wanted to know why the laws weren't working, so I asked the experts. "I'm not going in the store to buy no gun," said one maximum-security inmate in New Jersey. "So, I could care less if they had a background check or not."

"There's guns everywhere," said another inmate. "If you got money, you can get a gun."

Talking to prisoners about guns emphasizes a few key lessons. First, criminals don't obey the law. (That's why we call them "criminals.") Second, no law can repeal the law of supply and demand. If there's money to be made selling something, someone will sell it.

A study funded by the Department of Justice confirmed what the prisoners said. Criminals buy their guns illegally and easily. The study found that what felons fear most is not the police or the prison system, but their fellow citizens, who might be armed. One inmate told me, "When you gonna rob somebody you don't know, it makes it harder because you don't know what to expect out of them."


I personally own and carry a gun. Do you see me as a criminal? Have I ever shot anyone? Have I robbed a bank? No.

We live in a uncertain world. Things happen all over world rather there is gun control or not. You think the USA is the only place that has school shootings? Don't have the wool pulled over your eyes. Do you own research on everything.

[John]

She made the decision to commit the act that got her pregnant. And as far as you not saying DC had Gun Control heres your own words.



Hum so your saying Palin's daughter decided to get PREGNANT at the age of 17? I highly doubt that.

[John]

Now since they did have Gun Control all the way up till this past June and it had one of the countries highest crime and murder rates do ya really think that gun control was working ? No it wasnt cause only the criminals had guns cause they dont follow laws.

I used D.C as an example of gun control. If it is a law damn sure most people are going to follow it... and the others will be in Jail.

[tylaa]

Hum so your saying Palin's daughter decided to get PREGNANT at the age of 17? I highly doubt that.

I think he said she decided to have sex not get pregnant :P

[rufus]

Wow John each post you make tells me more and more why you just dont understand things.

Im sure her pregnancy wasnt on purpose but she went against what she was taught by even having sex to begin with. Does that make it easier for you ?

[John]

Im sure her pregnancy wasnt on purpose but she went against what she was taught by even having sex to begin with. Does that make it easier for you ?

WHAT SHE WAS TAUGHT? LOL
her dumbass mother is against sex eduation remember?

[xxsean]

the thing is
many teens
are kinda forced into this
you never know what her daughters intentions were

so
theres no reason to make your own conclusions about her daughter

[rufus]

I used D.C as an example of gun control. If it is a law damn sure most people are going to follow it... and the others will be in Jail.

Read John it was a Law for 32 years. When does it come to the point that we admit its not working ?

[John]

Read John it was a Law for 32 years. When does it come to the point that we admit its not working ?

:2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns:

[GREGO]

**** Cheney shot some dude in the face! that's not gun control that's for sure

I don't like gun control. I like the idea of everyone owning a gun, but at the same time, having enough intelligence to be responsable with a deadly weapon.

[babydoll]

Originally Posted by John View Post
Hum so your saying Palin's daughter decided to get PREGNANT at the age of 17? I highly doubt that.



she probably didnt!


i love how you think it might have just been her decision to just get pregnant
58% of teenage pregnancies are accidents

so. idk what your talking about


they are saying shes doesn't decide to get PREGNANT but she decide to have s*x and accidentally she get pregnant

what ever thought by ther parent if that things come along not all teens can't resist it

[GREGO]

they are saying shes doesn't decide to get PREGNANT but she decide to have s*x and accidentally he get pregnant

what ever thought by ther parent if that things come along not all teens can't resist it

I dunno where you are from but around here "he's" generally don't get pregnant :rolleyes:

[rufus]

WHAT SHE WAS TAUGHT? LOL
her dumbass mother is against sex eduation remember?

Your so funny but I know its so innocent also. 1st you say Palin is against sex ed in school no you twist so she is against it totally and even at home.

Suggestion for ya John. Take an extra year in school of Government cause I think ya need it if ya wanna actually debate with reason here.

Im done here on this one. It would be cruel for me to continue.

Grego Im glad we have agreed on something here. Gun Control Kudos to ya.

[babydoll]

lol sorry about the he i mean she:whackit::winkiss:

[John]

Your so funny but I know its so innocent also. 1st you say Palin is against sex ed in school no you twist so she is against it totally and even at home.

Suggestion for ya John. Take an extra year in school of Government cause I think ya need it if ya wanna actually debate with reason here.

Im done here on this one. It would be cruel for me to continue.

Grego Im glad we have agreed on something here. Gun Control Kudos to ya.

kay :] go back to the nursing home now :]

[Kasami2k4]

Hey, palins the chick who has a few cokehead kids, one who just had a kid with downs syndrome, so its like, retarded, and tries to put it off as hers instead of her slutty daughters, and charges women for the rape kits right? :o

[John]

Hey, palins the chick who has a few cokehead kids, one who just had a kid with downs syndrome, so its like, retarded, and tries to put it off as hers instead of her slutty daughters, and charges women for the rape kits right? :o

basically.

[Ryan]

her latest blunder is what scares me.
she was using a yahoo email account to conduct alaskan government business.
and then she gets her dumbass hacked..
really responsible.

McCain - Palin 08'!
:whistling: yeah right.:whistling:

[xxsean]

yeah
that kinda
shocked me
a little

and she never really apologized or anything
so theres something fishy

she might be the blunder of McCains campaign

[Kasami2k4]

..Apologize for getting hacked? Are you on crack? :o If someones good enough, they can get into your account easily.

[xxsean]

well yeah
but i mean for the fact that she decided not to use the government authorized email system to conduct business?
yeah i would be a little sorry
especially if it would impact the campaign

rofl

[GREGO]

did palin ever do an issue of playboy?

[feebee]

kay :] go back to the nursing home now :]

i love this guy