Dedicated server

[cutelayouts]

So it's time to move to a Dedicated from my vps ,cause the vps is way 2 slow.

anyone know what kind of specifications i would need for a dedicated server with 20k+ hits a day?

thank you.

[NYCBORN]

So it's time to move to a Dedicated from my vps ,cause the vps is way 2 slow.

anyone know what kind of specifications i would need for a dedicated server with 20k+ hits a day?

thank you.

Do you host images locally? Do you run a database? There's more to it than just stating the traffic.

[cutelayouts]

Yes i run data bases and all of the images are on the server.

[NYCBORN]

I'd start with a low end dual core server with 2gb ram. Should be more than enough to host you. Softlayer has some specials I highly recommend them.

[cutelayouts]

are they menaged servers ? or i have to menage them my self? and do you know if they would move my sites to the new server?

[lyzyrdgyzyrd]

Stay as far away from Hostgator as you can.

[cutelayouts]

weird i hear good things about them, but yah i would never get a dedicated from godaddy or host gator.

[lyzyrdgyzyrd]

Sure Hostgator is great for smaller sites. But let's put it this way: if they know your site generates steady revenue, they will play games and shake you down for every nickel they can get out of you.

[cutelayouts]

thx a lot for the info, yah i never considered them good for big site.

[Benahue]

Sure Hostgator is great for smaller sites. But let's put it this way: if they know your site generates steady revenue, they will play games and shake you down for every nickel they can get out of you.
They all do that. Dreamhost does the same thing.

[minnseoelite]

moved to the hosting forum.

if you're going with a dedicated go with softlayer

[cutelayouts]

yes but softlayer and then i will need menagment company they are all 100 bucks set up and 97 monthly so my server will be $300 thats a bit pricey.

[minnseoelite]

alot of people here use softlayer with platinumservermanagement.com

[Benahue]

You could also try hostican's dedicated if you think it's too pricey.

[Greg-J]

yes but softlayer and then i will need menagment company they are all 100 bucks set up and 97 monthly so my server will be $300 thats a bit pricey.
Why do you need a management company? What is it you think you need done that you can't do yourself?

[minnseoelite]

if this is a "have to move now" type thing go with softlayer and higher a management company that won't tie you to a contract. let them do the initial grunt work while you read up on server management so you can do it yourself later on.

if its more like "have to do sometime in the near future" then pick your hosting company, read up on what you need to know to set up and secure your server and then make the move yourself once you're ready.

[NYCBORN]

Softlayer usually has specials and I never paid any setup fees for my servers. If there is anything you need done they offer paid tickets for $3 where they will do 1 type of administration task you ask them for example: install software, add a firewall, reset your root password.

$3 a ticket you can't beat that.

They also offer PPTP VPN to your server so you can close up all the ports that arent in use and just vpn -> ssh when you need to.

[cutelayouts]

Why do you need a management company? What is it you think you need done that you can't do yourself?

lets see update the server software secure the server, move my stuff to the new server etc.

i can do it but i rather have a professional do it than me, cause i know i can screw up. Thats something i woildnt want to screw up on.

[NYCBORN]

lets see update the server software secure the server, move my stuff to the new server etc.

i can do it but i rather have a professional do it than me, cause i know i can screw up. Thats something i woildnt want to screw up on.

If you get a control panel like Plesk you can move sites so easy. There's a migration tool to do it for you.

[Ajay]

That's not bad. If you are getting 20k traffic, then it should be 1 day's revenue.

Platinum server management is only 30.00 a month but they are not proactive... It's good enough.
Also, they will move your site for you if you ask nicely. My host moved my site over free of charge. If you have cpanel you can easily move sites over too, using the account moving option.

yes but softlayer and then i will need menagment company they are all 100 bucks set up and 97 monthly so my server will be $300 thats a bit pricey.

[cutelayouts]

hahah with 7k i make 20 bucks a day...............

wow soft layer is nice wit the prices i have a special coupon and the thing came out to 158

Single Processor Dual Core Opteron 170 - 2.00GHz - 2 x 1MB cache

1 GB DDR 400

2000 GB Bandwidth

5 ip adreses

First Hard Drive
250GB SATA II

i am with JaguarPC the service is very fast they reply in minutes , but the server im looking for my price range is way 2 slow....
the yare fully menaged tho

AMD 3500+ 64 Bit CPU
1200 GB Premium Bandwidth
1 GB Ram Memory
160 GB Sata Drive

all comes out to like 187

[cutelayouts]

Damn im woth jaguar hosting so i decided to give them 1 month test run i payed 189 bucks andn ow they tell me 5-10 days for a server set up is it me or is that extremely slow? i know sites do that in 4 hour 24 hours tops.

[NYCBORN]

Damn im woth jaguar hosting so i decided to give them 1 month test run i payed 189 bucks andn ow they tell me 5-10 days for a server set up is it me or is that extremely slow? i know sites do that in 4 hour 24 hours tops.

Someone else I know ordered one of those and 10 days later he got a messages saying the hardware was just ordered LOL.

Should have went with Softlayer.

[cutelayouts]

if they do that to me i will just ask for my money back and switch to softlayer ASAP.

[steveAR]

go with FDCservers.net - they are very reliable and have no issues.

http://www.fdcservers.net/Services/DedicatedServers/100MbitUnmeteredservers

[cutelayouts]

I have the worst luck with server hosts..... i payed 189 now they sent me 2 more payments on 189 and not replying to my messages...

[Ajay]

should have gone with softlayer, steadfast is good too, I'm with them... a bit more expensive, but excellent service and they have fully managed starting at 189.95

[cutelayouts]

should have gone with softlayer, steadfast is good too, I'm with them... a bit more expensive, but excellent service and they have fully managed starting at 189.95
Yah i understand but im always scared of all this hosting companies i have been with so many they get out of bussines and dont even let me back anything up so i losoe all the work i ever did.

[cutelayouts]

God should of listened to you guys and took the risk , i still have no server i payed 2 weeks ago. My VPS is at 90% server load im loosing thousands of hits and money, and it looks like this server host only has excuses never ever anyone use Jaguarpc for Dedicated servers.

[NYCBORN]

They outsource their support to Pakistan too.

You should have gone with SL.

[NYCBORN]

God should of listened to you guys and took the risk , i still have no server i payed 2 weeks ago. My VPS is at 90% server load im loosing thousands of hits and money, and it looks like this server host only has excuses never ever anyone use Jaguarpc for Dedicated servers.


In the meantime I suggest you shutdown mail on your vps. Another member here was experiencing very high loads on his vps. After he shut down his email services his loads returned to normal. I highly recommend you do that until you get your dedicated up and running.

[cutelayouts]

Hey thx man i did it , lost around 10% memory load =D

the guys are klowns when i asked them for extra money can my vps get more memomery they said no... when i have the dedicated ordered and i complained about server load they doubled my memory haha... wow

[cutelayouts]

No one ever go with Jaguarpc dot com they have the worst service i have ever seen. It took them 2 weeks to set up my server. Now that i have the server i lost 40% of traffic due to the server not performing better than a VPS i had with them that that could handle 10k and cost me 75 bucks. THis dedicated server overloads like no tomorrow i get warning every 30 minutes that server load is maximum........... and i pay $190........ im loosing traffic and money god do i hate hosting companies.

[mincioni]

Check out SoftLayer.

You are probably going to need some serious horsepower if you are planning to host your own images..

[cutelayouts]

i dunno how powerfull of a server i need for a 10k site................

[mincioni]

For 10K UV/day, you can easily get by on a low-end server if you host your images elsewhere.

[cutelayouts]

I host on my server but i dont have that many images.... and i have a $ 189 server.... what i dont understand the same site was on a VPS and it did not over load what soever...
here is my server specs

Processor #1 Vendor: AuthenticAMD
Processor #1 Name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
Processor #1 speed: 2109.582 MHz
Processor #1 cache size: 512 KB

Processor #2 Vendor: AuthenticAMD
Processor #2 Name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
Processor #2 speed: 2109.582 MHz
Processor #2 cache size: 512 KB

[mincioni]

As your image codes get grabbed each day, ever more connections will be made to your server by users downloading your images.

This activity will steadily increase your server's load and data transfer.

[agoldfinger]

You mean all images on myspace profiles are loading from your server?
It's a huge overkill no matter how many images you have

I used to have 2 dedicated servers (!) one for the website and one just for serving images to myspace profiles.
After less than one month the monthly bandwidth grew over 2000GB on the "myspace servant" alone (Over 3 million image loads per day).
I have switched to Photobucket and never looked back.

[cutelayouts]

yes but i have no where near 3million images..... and photobucket will take for ever to upload everything ihave...

[mincioni]

Better to bear that cross now than later... ;)

[Ajay]

if you're hosting your own images just quit now. even if you traffic doesn't increase you're server is going to get killed. you need an offsite solution or atleast an alternate httpd hosting images on a different port. use a lighter httpd like nginx. you don't realize how much this is going to cost you in the long run. once you host on your server, trying to move those images are going to be hard to do without breaking links. if you are really adament on hosting it yourself get another server and run nginx on it for just images.

[agoldfinger]

yes but i have no where near 3million images..... and photobucket will take for ever to upload everything ihave...

Nobody here has 3 million images I mean 3 million hits. Can be one image loaded 3 million times.
Also if you setup the pro account with photbucket and use your server ftp to upload images it only take 2 minutes to upload hundreds.

Take our word for it and give it a shot.

[NYCBORN]

Listen to them. I use photobucket to offload some images I host locally but I can flip a switch and send all visitors to photobucket so I don't really care if I bare some of the bandwith burden.

That server should handle 10k visitors without blinking. Jagpc just sucks. Go for Softlayer.

[cutelayouts]

I know i need to switch this is very bad their VPS outperforms a dedicated server

[cutelayouts]

My httpd (1.3.37 (Unix) is not starting up and makes all the websites offline anyone know what can be done ?

[misdivision]

Hello cutelayouts,

If httpd is not starting, and you have root access, you can run the command:

tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log

Please note the location of your log will depend on your httpd.conf file. This will let you know why httpd is not starting up. Nevertheless, you should not have to worry yourself with this. This should be troubleshooted by your host as it requires a bit of knowledge to troubleshoot apache from the command line.

If your server is overloaded, then you will have no choice but to upgrade it. Possibly look into a load balancing/failover solution. By the messages I have seen you post, you have a lot of traffic and just need a solution that works for you.

The sooner you weather the storm by employing a solution that works for you, the sooner you can get back to the common goal of growth and profit.

Good luck,