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Twan
November 18th, 2006, 11:39 AM
I was wondering if there is still money to be made in the MySpace scene. Don't you get maybe 3 cents/click?

-Twan

Scilynt
November 18th, 2006, 09:41 PM
lol. no, not profitable at all.

alexisthemovie
November 18th, 2006, 09:42 PM
nope, we are losing money like crazy.

Scilynt
November 18th, 2006, 09:56 PM
Crap, just lost some more money! I should really learn by now!

Hurry, distract me so I don't think about losing money. Maybe some Wrestling Videos would help? Wow cool, there is a link in your sig to help. Thanks!

lol twan, how much do you think has changed since you have been here?

EHamilton
November 18th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Please don't make a mypace resource site so I can lose money all to myself.

Twan
November 18th, 2006, 10:46 PM
Crap, just lost some more money! I should really learn by now!

Hurry, distract me so I don't think about losing money. Maybe some Wrestling Videos would help? Wow cool, there is a link in your sig to help. Thanks!

lol twan, how much do you think has changed since you have been here?

Looks like alot, and I asked a serious question. How much is there to be made?

fryman
November 18th, 2006, 11:00 PM
I thought you weren't allowed to have a myspace related site

Scilynt
November 18th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Serious answer: the potential is based only on your efforts and ambition. There is plenty to be made.

Twan
November 18th, 2006, 11:36 PM
How much are each of you making every day (estimates)?

Is it just Adsense?

not2late
November 19th, 2006, 01:17 AM
You can use CPC programs like (Adsense/BidVertiser/Adbrite/etc) or you can go with other types of affiliate programs that do CPM banners, etc.

Its definately "still profitable", but I dont think its a walk in the park.

Its not2late, get on ya grind. ;)

DavidR
November 19th, 2006, 01:20 AM
How much are each of you making every day (estimates)?

Is it just Adsense?

I won't answer that income question, a) because I won't lol and b) because it's pointless, my figures are low as I only just started out.

But... Let's just say I am seeing enough and the right CPM etc etc to know I just need to keep at it to make a success of my site.

I opened my site less than a month ago, so yes, there is still money to be made (based on what I make now and what I can calculate for the future, even when I half my estimates)... if there's traffic there's money... but you have to work at it. You can't just upload a turnkey and expect results. Work = results.

No it isn't just Adsense. Although Adsense and it's pretenders are the best money maker, you will find though by adding CPM baners and pop-ups you can add 50% to your income (with the right network). I haven't tried this yet but am about to, other affiliate schemes can also add to your income.

Connections
November 19th, 2006, 02:45 PM
The overall payouts for myspace resource sites have gone down hill very fast in terms of revenue, unless you have a massive site with heaps of traffic your chance of making some serious $$$ isnt that high unless you work very hard....

I have been in this scene since MAY this yeat and clicks back then seemed to pay soo much I remember when I first had a site up with myspace stuff I got $2.97 from 8 clicks on like my second day!!!
today when I check adsense and see 8 clicks from my site its like 12 cents maby lol....you see the odd 33 cents click but this is not happening to much.

I have other projects I am working on but my myspace site still makes a little cash its pretty good like it just sits their and makes some $$$ I guess if I had some more traffic then I would get more $$$ aswell....If you want to be sucessful in these sites you need alot of traffic, alot of different content and alot of spare time to add new stuff to your site.

fryman
November 19th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Agreed. I remember at the begining of this year everyone was talking about building myspace sites, it was the everywhere. So sudenly there were thousands of sites popping up all over the place and the net got saturated.

People will always give the ridiculous lame phrase of "oh, but myspace has millions of users, so no mattter how many sites there are out there you will still be able to get traffic". Wrong. There are already so many sites that only the best ones, the biggest, most respected are the ones that are getting good ranks at search engines.

If you want to rely on bulletins and similar crap traffic and earn a few bucks then you might be able to do it. But if you want to make a living out of this, those days are gone. The spots are taken and no fresh site will be able to take them.

Ted Hat
November 19th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Wow I can post again

Anway, im Ted Hat

and I have one MSRS and it gets zero traffic from google and only 3 hits a day despite being over 5 months aold and having PR 4 and all. I dont bother promoting it though because I found that I send a bulletin and post comments and i get a BIG traffic spake and it all goes away withi na few days. IM like BFFFFFFFFFFFTTT that was lame. You get 500 hits and then the next day 100 and by the end of the week your back to square one.

Yea you heard the sory im not goign to repeat it

Ive said before that MSRS are a tough sell. There are too many of them and getting the traffic and making the $$ is hard.

Ranking well for the high traffic phases (and keeping the rankings as well im not talking about the 1 week pre-sandbox rankings) is hard to do.

Yea myspace has 120 million users so if your a noob you thinking "well I can just get 1/10000 of them to me site not too hard huh???" Um it is hard...reality check up from the neck up

fryman
November 19th, 2006, 03:17 PM
The cat in the hat is back...

DavidR
November 19th, 2006, 03:18 PM
I think with decent content it is still very possible (add in, hard work and commitment), without being in the top few pages for any MySpace keyword on Google.

Ted Hat
November 19th, 2006, 03:20 PM
David, since your site launched on Oct 30th how has it done? Just wondering.

DavidR
November 19th, 2006, 03:33 PM
David, since your site launched on Oct 30th how has it done? Just wondering.

It's not raking in money and I didn't expect it to it's only been a few weeks. But I see increases in traffic and refers that are promising. I will keep up the effort for sure, I am more motivated everyday as I see the refers increase, just from MySpace profiles alone, which gives me great confidence, because it means my content is being used and liked by my audience.

I look forward to the next few months, I'm still learning loads and have loads to learn. But for a site that doesn't have a huge content database yet (as all layouts are uniquely made by me so takes time) I am massively spured on by what I see.

I have only been advertising the site for 1 and a half weeks. So in a way the site is only 1 and a half weeks old. 30th Oct being the day I made my index page availiable to everyone, not the day I started 'pushing' the site.

I fully understand what everyone says about the difficulties and the huge flooded market. Maybe I am blinded by my hopes, but only time will tell. I think it is possible still.

fryman
November 19th, 2006, 03:50 PM
With hard work its possible, but the days of "upload, sit back and wait for the money to come" are gone

tkilgore
November 19th, 2006, 10:00 PM
With hard work its possible, but the days of "upload, sit back and wait for the money to come" are gone

This may seem funny ..but I really got into the myspace stuff to relocate the traffic that I get to my paying projects. lol

The adSence clicks for "brand name" pay a ton!!! vs the 2-12 cents for anything myspace related. Clicks of the other will put a smile on your face.

I have ...did...and tried changing EVERY thing from page name ..title.. to you name it ..on my myspace sites to relect the "brand name" keyword for google.

Well the kiddy traffic changed it back by noon. Or I got Honda and or John Deer Generators all day. Yikes..`google to strong` ... =[

It seems to make money with myspace is to relocate the focus on a PAYING process. KAAACHINNGGG

Hope this helps..and it really like a gold rush..with common since.

Tod K
proxymyspace.org

MrWizard
November 20th, 2006, 05:56 AM
The adSence clicks for "brand name" pay a ton!!! vs the 2-12 cents for anything myspace related. Clicks of the other will put a smile on your face.

I have ...did...and tried changing EVERY thing from page name ..title.. to you name it ..on my myspace sites to relect the "brand name" keyword for google.

Well the kiddy traffic changed it back by noon. Or I got Honda and or John Deer Generators all day. Yikes..`google to strong` ... =[

It seems to make money with myspace is to relocate the focus on a PAYING process. KAAACHINNGGG


Very interesting. Could you please post a little more about this. Maybe an example or two and what you mean by "on a PAYING process". Thanks,

Ted Hat
November 20th, 2006, 06:16 AM
I have little idea what he is saying. Something to do with john deer tractors and kiddies. Id dunno.

Dean
November 20th, 2006, 07:01 AM
I believe that these sites can still be profitable, and earn a living off them.

My site has been open less than a month and I am earning not a ton, but enough to help re-invest and my traffic is growing day by day in good leaps.

I believe that you can no longer have a site like everyone else and expect to succeed, you need like others have said - committment, a user-friendly site and lots of content.

Dean

tkilgore
November 20th, 2006, 07:39 AM
I believe that these sites can still be profitable, and earn a living off them.

My site has been open less than a month and I am earning not a ton, but enough to help re-invest and my traffic is growing day by day in good leaps.

I believe that you can no longer have a site like everyone else and expect to succeed, you need like others have said - committment, a user-friendly site and lots of content.

Dean

Mr. Wizard ..send you traffic to what pays.. for example I have a estore site that pays 33- 1 dollar a click and it pay better than 2-12 cents. Instead of placing ads ..place your own for your sites that pay.

As far as Ted Hat..I try to explain here .. I get Honda Generator ads and John Deer ads on my myspacegenerator.org. Why ...becuse I had changed the info to reflect keywords and not myspace. as far as kiddies ..preety cut a dry who the kiddes are. by noon the traffic ..from myspace will change any setting you made back to google in general.

hope that helps.

DavidR
November 20th, 2006, 07:47 AM
As far as Ted Hat..I try to explain here .. I get Honda Generator ads and John Deer ads on my myspacegenerator.org. Why ...becuse I had changed the info to reflect keywords and not myspace. as far as kiddies ..preety cut a dry who the kiddes are. by noon the traffic ..from myspace will change any setting you made back to google in general.

hope that helps.

By kiddies you just mean people from MySpace...?

So... you fiddled your site to make it display ads that weren't appropriate for it or the audience. But because Google uses traffic source as well as just keywords on your site to dictate what ads are displayed, by the middle of the day the ads were back to displaying what was relevent to your content, not the higher paying irrelevent ones?

t-rent
November 20th, 2006, 07:52 AM
^^ I'm pretty sure that is what he is saying.

I've had my site up for a few weeks and money-wise it's struggling.

tkilgore
November 20th, 2006, 09:44 AM
^^ I'm pretty sure that is what he is saying.

I've had my site up for a few weeks and money-wise it's struggling.


Yes, that is exactly what I am saying thank you David R. You can try to work around with the ads but really it is a no go.

I am sure if we had YPN publish accounts from day one this would be a bit different.

WHY? There ads tend to be a bit more broad for the "end-user". So you will see brand names and insurance and other types of things that pay better. In general graphics and layouts and what not are saturated BIG time in Google searches.

So ads offering just layouts, Graphics, Generators and the same stuff we have times10!! Probably hurts our entire bottom line. I compare it to a specific product and let your competitors advertise on your site for the same product.

It is bit crazy in the overall scheme vs. other business models. You build it and hope they click away via ads. Kind of twisted process and yes I now about the unique vs. returning visitors effect however, it has "o" paying appeal at 2 cents. 

Ever since I started directing my traffic to my own eCommerce sites with a simple “body unload” feature it has finally started to pay off. I am lucky enough to have a few types of sites to try this out. Again this works for me and there a ton of other ideas for paying redirects.

Another tip… I have learned the most from forum posts site owner who sell there websites and explain in detail of how they made it work, and what there percentages were.

Because they now are out of the biz per-say they tend to open up vs. someone making a daily income from it. Check it out you would be amazed the tips you find from someone getting out of the business.

Tod K